Drink O'Clock

Shawn "Bingo" Green

Rob Valincius / Bingo Season 2 Episode 3

Shawn "Bingo" Green is a seasoned comedic actor, improver, and live podcaster of the
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Intro Song

Rob Valincius: Welcome to season two, baby. Uh, I took a, a hiatus of a couple weeks. We're cranking them out. I'm fucking jam packed now through July. Uh, and I, you know what, man, I gotta tell ya, I'm fucking excited, uh, to have on, uh, someone with your stature. So I have, uh, Sean Green with me, who goes by Bingo, that's, that's his stage name.

Mine was Max ABV, by the way, back streaming and back when I first started this. I've kind of removed it from, uh, from a lot of things, but that was my, uh, my go to. And, and, Sean, bingo, uh, you're a seasoned comedic actor, you're an improver, and you have a podcast that's mostly live, although you post all your stuff on YouTube all that, uh, known as the, uh, Halfway Okay Podcast.

Yes. Oh, this is the Drink O'Clock Podcast, by the way. I guess I should fuckin say that. Uh, cause I don't, I don't even think I said my show name. Uh, shows how much I'm fuckin in my head today. But welcome to the show, man.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: They can read. They know what they clicked on. They know what's happening. They know what's in their

Rob Valincius: This, this is the internet, man. You know how it

Shawn "Bingo" Green: man. It's the internet on the 90s. We know what's happening. They know what RSS feeds are. They can get it if they wanna, you

Rob Valincius: People are bastards, dude. You know, they'll call me out on like the dumbest fuckin shit. And it's like, bro, go get your own fuckin podcast. How about

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, yeah. No

Rob Valincius: Or, or just don't listen. I don't give a shit. I just do this because it gives me an excuse to drink during the week. And people don't look at me weird. You know?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I haven't gotten any hate, which means I don't have a good enough, I don't have a wide enough audience. Because I've got no trolls. No one hates me. So I'm like, I'm not doing, I'm not doing anything good. I'm not, I obviously have not, I'm not making an impact. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: dude. Twitch just brings out the troll. And a lot of times because it's kids. You know, a lot of it's like 17, 18 year old kids that have no fucking idea what life is real like. Like a little kid, man. You know, uh, you dance around a little bit, and I'll give you my, my Twitch Prime sub.

Go, go, go play that game with, with no, no fucking weapons. And I'm like, that defeats the purpose of the game, you little cock munch. It's not worth two dollars and fifty cents, I'm sorry. Um, I don't know if you're drinking, by the way, uh, but, oh, awesome, what you got?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: bourbon whiskey, bullet brand

Rob Valincius: Me too,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: trademark old fashioned. Is that, is that what you have an old fashioned or you have straight whiskey?

Rob Valincius: Uh, so this is bullet rye, but this is what I make my old fashions with. So, this is my, uh, I recommend trying Proof Syrup with Bullet. It's fucking delicious, and it makes a great old fashioned. I'm lazy as shit, so you don't have to do anything. It's delicious. But cheers, man.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Cheers. Mm mm. That's, that's delicious stuff. I never make cocktails at home. I never make, it's such a, there's so much, it's such a to do. So I'm like, I'm like beer, or bourbon, and then that's, like, that's it. Yeah, it's just so stressful.

Rob Valincius: It is, it is, and I'll tell you this. I, I literally didn't do anything except pour two liquids in a glass and stir. So, that's probably the extent to which, uh, Of how far I'd go. Like, and I'll tell you this. So the first time I made an old fashioned, like a legit old fashioned, I was excited, man. I fucking got home.

I had everything I needed. It was all laid out on the counter and I'm one of those people. If I'm going to do it, I'm going to get. Not cheap shit. And, I'm gonna like really invest into, you know, how to do it, techniques, right? So I was studying up on YouTube, um, I make it. So I had, I bought a muddler on Amazon, and I'm fuckin muddlin away, and, you know, trying to get all the, the aromas, and all that other bullshit.

I make it, I take one sip, one, it's disgusting, two, I set it down, the motherfucker tips over, spills everywhere. So now I have a sugary Fucking shitty old fashioned mess all over my counter and I

Shawn "Bingo" Green: drunk dog. Who's licking it up?

Rob Valincius: Yeah, never again. Absolutely not. It's too much fucking work. And if you do that kudos to you I'm, just way too fucking lazy to do it.

I'd rather just get drunk the old fashioned way

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yes, or or like so like my favorite cocktail. I know this is this drink hour. We're just gonna talk about drinks I'm cool with that. I like to talk about drinks favorite cocktail is a extra dirty vodka martini I want it to taste like a salt lick. I want to taste like like a bullion cube and I love it It's my favorite, but I can't I won't i'm not even going to attempt to try to figure out how to make it I'll just go to the bars that I know like make a good one Or follow a bartender around like oh You She makes that good good.

I'm going now. She works here. Okay. Well, I guess we're going to the silver slipper now friends And it's it's great. I don't know if you're a fan of things that taste like salt But it's a fine drink

Rob Valincius: my fucking dogs man driving me nuts the one time I leave them down here and they're and they're barking Um, so I am uh, i'm a snob now with old fashions because I know what I like You

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Mm

Rob Valincius: And I've, I've really branched out with whiskey. So, like, uh, you know, Angel's Envy is something I tried more recently.

Shout out to, uh, Bill Harlow. He was on the podcast. He, uh, he got me into it. It's a fucking expensive bottle, by the way. It was, like, a hundred bucks for the rye version. And it's, like, sixty bucks for the regular. I don't know why it's, like, almost double the price. But, um, I had, like, anytime I go to a bar now, the first thing I do, I spit.

Not a hole in the wall. You don't go to a fucking corner bar asking for old fashions. Okay. Let's, let's set that record

Shawn "Bingo" Green: you're gonna get that you're gonna get that maraschino cherry and like some orange tang In a cup with some, you know, maybe with some old granddad if you're lucky

Rob Valincius: it's a, it's a travesty. Uh, it's an abomination. Uh, but if I'm, if I'm at a restaurant that's half decent, the first thing I do is ask the bartender, how's your old fashions because you know, yeah, you can have all the best ingredients in the world, but with an old fashion, there's, there takes some skill, man, and, and some love, you know, um, and that's how you typically know.

The person's good at their job is if they can make a fucking, a decent old fashioned. And I've had a couple places, like, blow me away. I'm like, holy shit, this is amazing. And, um, but I go, any restaurant I go to for the first time, I try their old fashioned. Typically.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: That's fair.

Rob Valincius: I've had good ones, and I've had, uh, The, the, the cherry in there, uh, with the tang.

Um, from places you wouldn't even think to, it's like, what the fuck is this? This was 15, sir.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, yeah.

Rob Valincius: Uh, but yeah, so enough about my rants on old fashions. Uh, this podcast is about you, man. Let's talk a little bit about you and, and kind of what, uh, what got you to where you are. So, um, for starters, uh, I always like to pick the brains of, of people who write.

Right. So, um, and. As, as somewhat of an actor, right? And an improver, I feel like you're always writing in your head. So it doesn't really matter if you're, if you're on or not, you're always writing in your head. So, um, talk to me a little bit about like, what got you into like the comedy, acting, improv thing growing up?

Like, was it something, you know, that was in your house? Were you the funny, funny guy? Like, tell me a little bit about growing up and then kind of how you got into that.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Sure, yeah. I mean, uh, uh, yeah, any kind of like, little chubby weirdo is gonna get, you know, Oh, Bully, yeah, there we go. I knew we were, we were like, uh, is going to get, you know, bullied and, and targeted at any kind of like, you know, where there's other feral children in school, like settings and

Rob Valincius: Well, hold on. Before you go into the story then, what was your, what was your childhood nickname that they thought would be like, what would stick with you forever? Mine, I'll start, was Chubby Checkers. I don't know where the fuck these little animals, can't, you know, got, got that from, but Chubby Checkers.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, that's, that's ancient. That's like something

Rob Valincius: And they called me, uh, ah, they called me something else. Oh, and then, uh, for a little while, before I lost a shit ton of weight, it was Cookie.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, that's a fun one though. Cookie.

Rob Valincius: Yeah,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: but if none of it was,

Rob Valincius: unless you're like the new kid in 8th grade, halfway through 8th grade cause you just moved and you're trying to make friends and everyone's calling you Cookie cause you're a fat nerd and you're just like, this is not going how I planned.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: not ideal, not, yeah, not ideal. Um, that's really, it's interesting. I never really had like, I, there was one nickname that just didn't really stick and it was like around, he was in middle school, like around seventh, eighth grade. Um, you remember the old, uh, it's Pat sketches from SNL

Rob Valincius: Oh yeah, those are all, that's fucked up.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: how masculine is this, is a seventh grader going to be? Like, it was just, it was a very weird thing. So it's just like, okay, I guess I don't, uh, all right. That's, and I didn't, I was, I was ignorant. I wasn't watching SNL when I was in seventh grade. I was playing video games and watching DuckTales because those both ruled.

And so I didn't know what he was referencing until like later. And I was like, oh, I get it. Well, that's hurtful. But so yeah, that was, that was

Rob Valincius: That's actually kind of, that's so fucked up, but it is kind of funny. But all right. So, so, uh, I feel like if you're listening to this, every nerdy fat kid, especially if you grew up, like I'll be 38 this year, especially if like you're in your thirties, like you grew up when kids were not like, say the safe space didn't exist in school, you were beat up, you were bullied, like it was no cyber shit.

Like if someone didn't like you, they just came up and punched you in the

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Mm hmm. It was, it sucked, it turns

Rob Valincius: It was the Wild Wild West, you know? Um, It was, it was a wild time, but it really toughened us up, I think, because nothing fucking bothers me now. Like, not a goddamn thing bothers

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, see, everything still bothers me. That's all. I just I develop a sense of humor so I can get to these first and be like, I'm a fat effeminate weirdo. Hi, gotcha. Yeah. Hi,

Rob Valincius: bitch!

Shawn "Bingo" Green: You know, so and that's the whole point like taking control of that a little bit to kind of like um you know, beat him to the punch a little bit.

I think that's how I became a funny person or at least a person who tries to be funny. Uh

Rob Valincius: Because you were trying to beat him to the punchline.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, just trying to get any kind of games, any kind of ground. And then like, and sometimes I won myself some bullies to friends. Like, you know, you got, you had some of those, uh, those little stories that would happen here and there.

And then by high school, it was pretty much like, oh, okay, cool. This is, I'm just like, I'm still part of the outcast, but like in the nineties, the outcasts were also the cool kids and. And for whatever reason, the outcast little clique I was in in high school was bullied. We were kind of friends with like the sports people, because they were all the stoners.

And all of my friends were stoners, but then like the band nerds would be the ones to bully us. Which sounds super fucked up,

Rob Valincius: What is going on?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: don't know man, Ohio's a weird place.

Rob Valincius: Oh, you're in Ohio. I mean, you know what, though? I mean, like, I feel like just our area in general, like, I consider Ohio, Philly.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Philly. Okay. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: of the northeast. You're not quite central. Um, you're like in a weird zone. So you get a lot

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Wisconsin but we're not quite like New Jersey. You know, yeah.

Rob Valincius: Ugh, fucking hate New Jersey. Um, but yeah, you, you feel like, I feel like, Yeah. Anyone I've met from Ohio, it's like a mixture of both. You're like, you're somewhat Midwest, but you're also a little bit Northeast. It's like a weird combination, you

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I'll take it. I'll take it. Salute.

Rob Valincius: I I'm gonna end up finishing this well before the podcast. I should have made a backup. I never do. Hehehehehehehehe

Shawn "Bingo" Green: to run it. Yeah, you do you. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: you dealt with, uh, you know, the, the weirdness and shit, but like, What, um, what really got you into, like, that comedy side? And, and improv is tough, man. Improv is like, that's not an easy thing to do.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: It sucks, but it's also like I have a weird complicated relationship with improv. Um, I'll put a pin in that. I think honestly, it was like, you know, seeing the impact that that Humor could have in my life. It's like, Oh, this is the way to win people over is to be funny. That's great. I like making people laugh.

It's great. Oh, I'm getting attention and it's positive attention. Fantastic. Even if it's self deprecating, it's still attention I was controlling. So it's like dope into it. Um, And then I would watch like, I grew up also to add to insult to injury. Uh, I grew up like in the middle of nowhere. We didn't have cable and we didn't have, like, we couldn't get it because it was out in the wilderness and, uh, and Even like the normal channels that had like Conan and like Fox and stuff like that would like come in really fuzzy.

So I would like, I would, I would ingest Conan late nights and be very tired for school on this fuzzy TV. Like it was, it was great. Um, and that really like that the Simpsons, uh, you know, eventually discovering like kids in the hall. And I was just like, okay, well I, comedy is the best thing in the world. Um, And then, and then I happened to get involved with, uh, you know, Which is like any of your younger viewers are going to be like, well, I don't even know what that is really.

But like, it's

Rob Valincius: public access?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Essentially YouTube, but like

Rob Valincius: Yeah.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: it was,

Rob Valincius: On a TV.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: it's like, it's, it's just a weird, it's the weirdest thing. In that, the, the, the, The spirit of public access, I still think lives on. It just has a chance to become way, way bigger. Um, but yeah, I did an improv show on public access.

They just had one on there, which is crazy. Um, and I got involved in that and then just kind of did that for started. We was part of a troop and we did some live shows and mostly did like. live broadcasted shows. And then I would do live shows on public access where I found out that you could swear on public access because it, because the cable's not governed by the FCC.

So I would do a live podcast of like eight. I was such a little edgelord piece of shit when in my early twenties. And I would just be like, Oh, whatever. Poop and pee fart. Fuck dick poop. I can, I can swear on this, right? Uh, I figured as much, um. And, uh, yeah, and it was, so that was like, that was fun. And I just, and that, and through that I met people that then, um, you know, uh, know, were like into like making films and horror films and other little weird films.

So I would be a part of those and, and, and co wrote a couple of those. And, uh, one film, I call them films, they're not real, like they're not like, You know what I mean? Like, they're on IMDB, but like, you can put anything on IMDB. Uh, one of them was almost entirely improv'd, right? Um, almost entirely improv'd with my friend, uh, who's an actual real comedian who gets paid for it, Ryan Singer.

Um, he and I, uh, uh, were kind of the leads in a, in a movie called The Wonderland Express, and that was a lot of fun. Um, but yeah, and so, so I just, uh, does that answer your question? Or I'm just kind of rambling at this point. Okay, good.

Rob Valincius: no, no, no, no. I mean, um, look, I think, um, I think it takes a special type of person, like intellectually to be able to do improv. Well, so I, I have the utmost respect because like anybody can kind of like. Write up jokes and practice them and Okay, not let me let me go back. You can't not everyone can be a fucking comedian.

Not everyone's funny What I mean by that though is like, you know comedians practice their stuff, right? They they rehearse it. They they refine it Improv people just fucking wing it every time so like You just got to respect that because like have you ever have you ever done one in front of a crowd and it bombed?

Like what's that? What's it like doing it in front of like? An audience and it doesn't go well, like, it's just

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I mean, oh it's definitely, oh it's awkward. But like, maybe I've developed, maybe my tough skin has formed in that way. Where it's like, it's so funny to me when I'm bombing on stage that I kind of have to like, out of body experience myself and kind of Jim the camera a little bit and be like, can you fucking believe this is happening?

This is terrible like it's so it it, you know, it's so it's so funny that you know That i'm trying to get something to work and it's not working That it's funny to even to myself and then you stop taking it. So seriously, then you chill out and then you can sometimes Hopefully sear it back and actually get it to be like somewhat funny.

Um

Rob Valincius: Like, it's gotta be a, like, um, an awesome feeling to just be killing a comedy or improv show, right? Like, what's it feel like to, like, just see the entire crowd just fucking laughing, dying laughing?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: It feels cool. It feels really good. It's a, it's something that's, that I, I miss doing with having like, you know, not performing live that much anymore. You know, uh, I'm, uh, it's, it's a different kind of, it's a different kind of energy. It's, it feels good. When you notice it, sometimes you don't even notice it because you're so engrossed in what you're doing and you're just, you're just going for it.

And it's, and it's, uh, so it really, it depends on, it depends, it depends on scene to scene. I guess

Rob Valincius: But it's, it, like, oh man, I mean, there can't be many feelings That you get that is similar to like making an entire crowd like piss their pants. I just, I don't know, man. I guess I, I'm one of those people. So I'm a pussy. So, and I say that all the time on my show, I feel like I could come up with a decent comedy, like 30 minutes.

I probably could, could, could put some fun shit. I don't know if I could constantly do it. I could probably be like a one and done er. Um, and I think to myself all the time, like, man, if I, if only I had the balls to do like, uh, Comedy night somewhere. I just, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I feel like I would shit my pants.

I'd walk up there. I'd poop my pants. I'd get a ton of laughs because I'm like, I just shit my pants. But that wouldn't be part of the set. I couldn't sit out there smelling like shit, and then it'd be done and over with. So I mean, I guess I'd get a quick laugh, you know, but,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I, it's, it's, it, so I've done standup comedy one time, and it was, and it was, it went well. But I knew most of the people that were there. It was extremely small. It was like at Noon at a it was noon at a record store Opening for my friend's book signing. So it was a very specific weird crowd. That was just going to be I think polite to a guy making Alt comedy jokes, you know what I mean?

Not actually, you know, so but and I I stressed out so much trying to get it right and trying, like you said, like to rehearse it. And part of the bit was it did sound so rehearsed. I was, you know, the cowards way to do comedy is to do like, Oh, I'm being like, I'm acting like I'm, I'm a real comedian, but these jokes suck.

And that's exactly what I was doing because I'm a coward. And because it was able to hide behind a basically a character. It was very easy to do once I got on stage. But at the end of the day, it's not, it's not that rewarding. I mean, again, I only did it once, but I would much rather do something off the cuff.

I like, I just like off the cuff. Uh, and I don't do improv that much anymore. I actually just started up taking local improv classes and working, you know how they do. You have to work your way through the, through their system. And then, then you can, then you have the privilege of, of, you know, playing on stage.

Which is fine, I get it. Um. But I love doing the podcast the way I do it because I have, you know, it's live. There's a chat. I have people that can call in and just to, uh, anytime they can call in to like run bits themselves or just ask something or do whatever. And I love that. Like that. Chaotic energy of it.

I think it's it's it's great. I don't I don't prepare a ton for my Podcasts and it twitch it's it streams on twitch, but there's no i'm not playing video games I'm, just doing a couple of loose segments that i've come up with um, I have a puppet and it and it's uh, sometimes and it's Yeah, so I don't know.

I I don't even know where we were talking about. I go on these tangents

Rob Valincius: I do the same thing, man. Uh, but yeah, uh, you know what we recently started watching? Uh, and I, I don't know if it's something you, since you didn't have, uh, TV way back then. But, uh, we just switched to YouTube TV. I, dude, I was paying like, 200 plus, 250 I think. Or 280, it was up to, for Comcast. And I couldn't do it anymore.

I'm like, I'm done. I can't do it. So I switched to Verizon, which was 90 bucks a month for internet and YouTube tv, and I'm paying like a hundred and, what's it, 140 bucks? A one 50 bucks a month for, you know. Uh, and honestly, I didn't realize just how many channels, like I had every channel known to man. I, I didn't realize how many channels we actually watched.

And it's really like 10 , like.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: yep. Mm

Rob Valincius: would, like, they have things all the time, but, uh, there's a channel on there that, that always has, whose line is it anyway?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: hmm.

Rob Valincius: And, that's like one of my favorite, like, you know, it's 11 o'clock, you're like, you know, laying down, and it's just, or, you know, it's one of those things where you could put on a show. And just really laugh, cause the, like the shit they say or come up, they're, they're geniuses, you know, uh, Colin, Ryan, uh, Wayne Brady, like they're just fucking hilarious, and they're so fucking good at it.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yes, they are very I mean, you're also getting like a super cut of like all the best shit from that night because those shows, from what I understand, run long and they just get the best out but,

Rob Valincius: Oh, really?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: yeah, yes, yeah.

Rob Valincius: I, that makes

Shawn "Bingo" Green: live but yeah, oh yeah. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yeah, you know what, I guess that makes sense. Because obviously, from an editing perspective, like, they have like, random people too, like, towards, with the newer ones, where it's like, they have like, uh, models, they'll have random actors, uh, like they had, I watched one with Gronk from back in the day, and it's

Shawn "Bingo" Green: tell me Gronk is hitting every single sketch, there ain't no way, ain't no way.

Rob Valincius: Yeah, well they, they would bring them out.

It was, I don't know, it's kind of silly how they do it. But they would bring them out like three times in a row. Instead of like just sitting them out there. They'd be like, alright, bye. And then the next sketch they'd come back out. It's like, and they introduce them again. It's like, we know fucking Gronk.

You know, um. But it's just, it's, it's funny how they, they have it set up. But it's, it's, it's fun to watch it again. Because I haven't watched it in a while. Um. And I just respect that type of comedy because I could never fucking come up with that shit. Um, so let's talk a little bit about, uh, The concept of your show.

So, um, looks like, you know, I was going through your stuff. It looks like you posted for the first time, like 14 years ago on your YouTube. So tell me a little bit about the evolution of, of 14 years ago. Cause I, I was watching certain things and it's like, you know, you could tell, you know, 14 years ago, I mean, a lot of people weren't doing YouTube, right, uh, or as many people weren't doing YouTube, so you were kind of like.

Doing it early. And then you could see. You know, I think when you started your podcast on Twitch and then we're bringing it to YouTube too, it was like night and day with the, the differences in resolution and, and, you know, you got your graphics on Twitch and, and things like that. So tell me a little bit about like the concept of your show.

How'd you come up with it? What made you do it? And how'd you get to where you are now?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Sure, uh, so orig Originally I w I didn't I didn't want to do like the internet like thing like it'd be a vlogger or anything like that like but people kept on it's a typical it's a typical hack thing you keep in here about oh people at work are like you're funny you should do you should do comedy you should go on SNL and I'm like okay that's how that works um and so I was encouraged by some co workers like you should just do a like a vlog thing I'm like what would it be about and just like I don't know just do something so I ended up making something that was kind of a weird weird don't know what the fuck it was.

I go back to those and I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I think it was like a mildly Pee Wee Herman esque kind of a weird thing I was doing.

Rob Valincius: It's kind of what I got from it. Yeah.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: It was a lot of effort because I would typically come up with the idea, shoot it, And edit it and post it all in like a week.

And so it was a very like, I didn't do a lot of, I'm not a writer. I don't like to write a lot of stuff ahead of time. I would come up with a loose outline and then just wing it. Um, and, uh, and I stopped doing that. And then, uh, uh, a friend of mine, Danny, uh, and I decided back in like what? 2017 or something like that.

Um, So a few years after I did the YouTube thing, um, that was, I was only like 30 some episodes. It wasn't that, you know, like three or four minutes or nothing crazy. Um, we started to do an audio podcast, which, uh, and those would, and we did that for like two and a half years weekly. And it was a lot of work, but a lot of fun.

And that's kind of where, uh, you know, a lot of the. We found a lot of like the viewers that came that are listeners and viewers that are now watching the show now um, and a lot of just like the tone of the show like this a weird chaotic joyful kind of like a A guy like a little goblin gobbling up a baby pig or something like that But it's a cute goblin and it's a cute baby pigs.

You're like, oh, oh, oh And it's so it's like a file. It's a fun chaotic weird little mess that um, that's kind of come from it it's not as uh as uh As sweet as the original stuff was. Um, and, uh, and yeah, so I stopped doing it. We stopped doing the podcast and when COVID hit a little before COVID, and then it was hard to do anything during COVID.

And then coming out of COVID, I was just like, I'm gonna fucking go crazy if I don't have a creative outlet. And I was like, well, You know, I, and, and, and I like video games. So I was like, well, I should, you know, I don't know how many video games I tried to make myself turns out that's just really hard when you don't know how to code and you don't want to learn how to code very, very difficult to do.

Um, and it, yeah, it's, it sucks. Um, and so I, you know, I had all these different little failed projects, half started stuff. I would get really passionate about that stuff. And then that felt so high. And then, oh, the lows from like. failing at that or or losing momentum and then being like, uh, sucked so bad and they need to start spiraling and trying to figure out like, well, I got to do something creative because you know, just being a lump on the couch isn't cutting it.

I have to do something. I need something. And so I started to do this about a little over a year ago, started to do a weekly live version of a weekly live one man. video version of what we were doing before. So I've kept the numbering. So we just hit number episode 200 a couple of weeks ago. Um, and I think that counts, even though only like 60 or so have been the new version of what it is.

Uh, it works for me. It's in my head. Thank you. Okay, good. Because my friend Danny is still contributes. He's still like, you know, we'll call him in and we'll like come up with ideas. He calls in all the time. He has various bits and characters. He's a, one of the funniest people I've ever met. Um, And, and, yeah, so it's, it's, it is, it is, it is my main creative outlet and I love it.

And I, I'm not going to stop doing it until I'm a corpse in a bathtub.

Rob Valincius: You know what? It's, it's yeah. And, and you know what, man, I've talked about this before, but there's something just fun about podcasting and especially if it's like you're like, it's for me, you know, it's your creative outlet. For me, it's my hobby. I don't really have many hobbies. Like, you know, I'm a nerd.

So gaming, but like gaming doesn't. It's different, you know, like, gaming gets out stress for me, like, you know, I play a lot of competitive games, because, um, I don't, I'm, I'm fat and older now, and I don't play sports like I used to, like, I, I really enjoyed basketball, so I would go play pickup basketball a lot, I'd play for 10, 11 hours sometimes, straight in a day,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Good God.

Rob Valincius: younger.

Yeah, but, uh, back in, like, 2016, I tore my ACL, and Once you tear something, dude, you're never really the same. I'm probably 85%, you know? Um, and, So I, for me, it was like, Okay, I, I can't, And that's why I started with Twitch, you know, uh, And I was actually doing pretty well, man, I was making like a hundred, Fifty bucks a month,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Wow, great. That's awesome.

Rob Valincius: Um, but, I didn't like dancing for kids. Like that's what, like it makes me sound like a fucking pedophile, but it's like, Dance monkey for this three dollars, dance, dance, you know.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: if you're a pedophile, they dance for you. That's how that works. So

Rob Valincius: That's true, alright, I feel better about myself. The kids are the fucking pedophiles, little bastards! Uh,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: pedophile in me.

Rob Valincius: But no, that's, that's, I mean it was, it's just, I'm too old for that shit.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah. Mm-Hmm?

Rob Valincius: Like if I was 20 and this existed when I was 20, I, I would have fucking killed it. But I was like, all right, I got it. And everyone always said I always had a very good mic set up.

So everyone's like, you, you sound like an announcer. Like I'd get into a game. They're like, what type of mic are you using? And I'd have to teach people, you know, uh, and they're like, you should be an announcer. You should do a podcast. And I'm like, nah. And then one day I'm just like, you know what? Fuck it.

You know, I know some people in the, in, you know, the game and I'll just interview. I started out. I'm like, I'm just going to interview e sports people, gamers, Twitch streamers. Right. And, uh, then I'm like, well, I have other interests. Like I like other shit. I like conspiracy theories. I like sports. I like, I'm just going to open it up.

I'll interview everyone. So my first like six or seven episodes were just streamers and gamers and e sports people. And then. Since then, you know, we're on episode 78, 79. Um, it's, it's just whatever I find interesting. And I've, I've really enjoyed doing it that way because I don't get stressed out about trying to find people who are streamers or gamers or whatever.

Um, and I get to talk about things that interest me and that keeps me more engaged. Um, but. You know, I've learned a lot doing podcasting and you know, it's, it's definitely, uh, I'm in the red for the past two years, you know, you're not, it's not like I'm making money doing this, but I have so much more fun and I meet really cool fucking people from all over the world and there's not many things you can do that, that will get you access to that, you know?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: absolutely, and especially if like, you know, it is so tempting to see the success of like a video game podcast or YouTube channel or whatever, or a true crime, Jesus Christ, do we need anymore true crime anything? Give it a rest! Ain't no, there ain't enough dead bodies to make all these fucking shows out of and it's like it's so easy to do that and be like just hyper focus and become successful at that even like you know enough to be like oh this justifies financially this justifies my time doing it i would rather eat a fucking baby chick live which would break my heart and then do that because that's that is the most i i would be bored immediately you I would get bored immediately and I don't see how any of those people can be fulfilled doing that.

There's not enough variety in any subject for, for you to have to be beholden to that like very narrow lane in the road. You know what I mean? So I think you made the right choice.

Rob Valincius: And, and, and streaming games sounds fun. And, you know, I have the utmost, yeah, I have the utmost respect for people that do it. But, it makes gaming like a job. And,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: It makes it stressful.

Rob Valincius: yeah, I don't

Shawn "Bingo" Green: oh, I have to be on, but then I also have to make Link do the thud shave shut that Link's gotta do here. No, it's terrible. It sucks. I hate it. Ugh.

Rob Valincius: want, yeah, I, I wanna be able, like, I, gaming's my stress reliever. I don't want gaming to create more stress. And look, you know, if I'm fucking playing, some games are still gonna stress me out.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah.

Rob Valincius: it's, it's not like I, Yeah, it's not like I have people watching me get stressed, so

Shawn "Bingo" Green: yeah.

Rob Valincius: I miss streaming?

Maybe a little bit cuz like I'm I met some cool people, but I really this is my thing I just I've always been a talker Um, and I just enjoy meeting new people and I think there's some value to some of the stuff that I bring up that I talk about that from that my guests bring to the show. And, and I know, uh, I have people that are younger guys that listen that, you know.

Part of my thing is, yeah, I drink, you know, and I interview people and stuff, but it's also like, I, I've went through some fucked up shit in life, just like everyone else, you know? And I hope that like my experiences, your experiences, whoever's going to be the next guest can have some sort of an impact on somebody, um, that maybe it changes the way they think about something, or maybe it inspires them to start their own podcast or whatever.

Right. It's like, you kind of leave a little bit of an impact in the world. Uh, to a certain degree. I mean, is it gonna, does it fucking matter? Who fucking knows? I don't, I used to care. I used to look at all my stats, all the fucking, I don't give a shit. I don't look at my stats, ever.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: No.

Rob Valincius: Because I don't care. I don't, I don't fucking care.

A buddy of mine, yeah, well you know what, you get so focused, I'm a numbers guy, I get so focused on it. Uh, but a buddy of mine, I'm a co host on two other podcasts, because of course, you know, as you do this, you meet people, you have relationships, and then, you know, it's like, hey, you wanna be on mine? I'm just like, alright, fuck it, let's do it.

Um, you know, but, uh, we had some posts recently that are like, going like, Not viral, but they're doing really, really well, like better than me and him have ever done independently. And we're like, all right, we made a good decision. We made a good decision doing this together. You know, uh, shout out rage and pillage podcast.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: and pillage? What's

Rob Valincius: Yeah. I mean, if you want, uh, the rage and pillage podcast is basically my way of letting my hair down. Now I know I got a lot going on here. Uh, but it's, uh, it's a podcast that I, it's a buddy of mine, uh, Burley started and he interviews some people here and there, but it's mostly like at this point, it's mostly me and him just.

Talking about super fucked up shit. I mean, the last episode we did, we talked about a guy that had two dicks and we talked about it for probably 20 minutes,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Great,

Rob Valincius: minutes. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, uh, he has to edit out, he has to blur the actual dicks, but he's, he's showing me the dicks and I'll tell you, man. Um, I don't know.

I'm, I'm still as, as, as an oxy of a moron. Is this going to sound, I'm still split on the, the, uh,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, hello.

Rob Valincius: Uh, because the, the dicks weren't like. They weren't split, like, separately, where it's like, here, where it would make sense. It's, they're, they're connected here, and it looks like a Hydra dick. Like, if, you know, if you pictured a Hydra with two heads, not three, with two, um Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. That's what I said!

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I think I'll just take my standard wiener. I think that's fine. I'll just be a standard wiener guy. I don't, I don't need to have two.

Rob Valincius: yeah, well, and here's the thing. So the, the, the, so, so the guy's, the guy's gay. And, you know, I, I, I, I have plenty of gay friends. There's, I have no issues with it. But we were joking about it in that, uh, Like, women would be scared of it, but when it comes to men, like, we're all about that shit. You know, so if a guy's got two dicks, it's, it's like, it's like, hey, he can bang two dudes if he wants.

Or he can, you know, it's like, he can get a blowjob, like, it's, you know, it's a thing, right? So it's like, we're like, yeah, of course the guy's gonna be gay, cause, like, a woman would look at that and be like, Oh, shit, I don't know what I'm doing. A guy's like, oh, perfect! You know, it's

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, they grew up on Garbage Pail Kids. They're like, yeah, cool, I've been conditioned to like this shit. That's like a He Man character. Yeah, this is

Rob Valincius: Yeah, it's like, it's like D& D. It's, it's a Hydra, right? It's like, whatever. It's, it's, but, you know, it's a double dick. Yeah, we're, we were just laughing the whole time and I'm like, that's the type of show where I can go on and I don't have to come prepared. We just talk about fucking dumb shit and it's a comedy podcast, you know?

Uh, we get We get hate. People jump on and be like, ah, you guys are, you don't like this. And it's like, look, listen to my show. Like, you know, come on my show and listen to what we talk about. It's, it's different, but it's a show I can just hang out. And it's, it's fun, you know? And, um, I look forward to doing all this stuff, uh, for the week, but that's the cool thing about, uh, to kind of circle this back, right?

It's the cool thing when you do stuff like this and that you meet really cool people. And then they kind of just stay in your life. Like, you know, uh, and read it and all these other things. Like you just meet people and people are cool, man.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, agreed.

Rob Valincius: all just trying to do something, create shit, you know?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: There's, there's a, a couple, few people that you remember the show Perfect Strangers. It's my favorite sitcom of all time. There was this group, a Facebook group that was basically just making shit posting about perfect strangers, which I didn't, I didn't understand the, the subtle art of the shit post back in like, you know, when we, I don't know, five years ago and.

I was just like this. I don't, I don't like that. They're making fun of my show. So we, I basically on the podcast started a war with a Facebook group and called people out by name and sort of reading their posts and be like, you're attacked. You're under attack. And then they started getting involved with the show that way.

And now they're like some fantastic friends who, who call in all the time contribute and, and, and we're good friends. So, yeah, the internet, the internet is a magical place.

Rob Valincius: Well, you know what

Shawn "Bingo" Green: cyber bully your way into having good, some good friendships if you're, if you try hard

Rob Valincius: Yeah. But you know what though? Like there's, there's some cool stuff because like, obviously with us, right. We came at a time where like. Yeah, especially as men, we would fucking get into a fist fight, and then be best friends the next day. And, I don't

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I never, I never did that, but yes, I I have

Rob Valincius: I've gotten into some, yeah, I've gotten into some fights with people.

But, I mean, I think, I think there's some, there's, there's some fun shit when it comes to guys and just what we're, you know, the testosterone's flowing, you know, whatever. Um, but. The internet is almost like that to a certain degree, especially, you know, um, the hate is so funny, you know, and that's how I knew I was doing something right, it's like when I, and, and look, I do all my own edits, I do all my own fucking, like I learned how to use, you know, Adobe, and Photoshop, and Descript, and Squadcast, and Audio, and Video, and all that other fucking bullshit.

You gotta learn to fucking do it, right? Um, I'm self taught, so when someone posts something like, Hey, you're a fat piece of shit, you know, your podcast sucks. I'm like, I always reply with, Thanks, man, or I'll go on there like if there's someone that has a profile What did we get the other day someone's like?

Oh, man, if only cuz I'm in a another podcast where it's a it's called body wrong and it's a it's a five podcasters including myself and We come up with top ten topics, and we just say dumb shit, whatever someone comment like I wish I was a A middle aged man, you know, saying dumb shit, blah, blah, blah. And then I go on this guy's profile and he's like, he works at a gas station.

He's like, he's obviously a loser. No offense to that

Shawn "Bingo" Green: not happy.

Rob Valincius: Yeah,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: not happy where he is, and he's in a consequence free environment where he can just shit on somebody for whatever reason.

Rob Valincius: and he has like three videos and it's like him in, in his gas station. So I go, I'm like, man, I wish I was a gas station attendant that looked like, looks like he hasn't showered in two weeks. And, and I do this from my podcast with Tik TOK, cause I don't give a fuck, you know? And he responds with, he corrected me to eight weeks and he's like, like he made fun of himself.

And I'm like, That's how you know you win on the internet, is if you make fun of somebody for making fun of you, and they make fun of themselves back.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Uh, that's, that's, yeah. That's good that, uh, nature finds a way and that, and you, and it found it, then that's, that's beautiful. That's a beautiful story,

Rob Valincius: I will specifically go on there, and I say that to the guys, I'm like, Look, I'm just letting you know, if someone's fucking saying shit, and I have ammo, I don't care. I'll fucking respond to everybody, and I'll call them all cocksuckers. It doesn't matter to me, man. I don't really care. But it's fun to me. I kinda like the, the animosity.

Like, I, I don't like being the bad guy. Uh, but I do enjoy a little bit of that friction. Cause I can, maybe cause I'm older and I don't know, I get bored in life, you know. Um,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: it's, yeah. It's, it's more interesting than everyone being completely fake and nice, right?

Rob Valincius: Ah, it's so annoying man. Everyone's fake now, and then the moment you leave they talk shit to ya via text or the internet or whatever, Tumblr. You know, it's like, you can't fucking, you really can't do anything anymore without people being upset or pissed off. And it's like, Come on, man. You know, grow up.

Not everyone's gonna like each other. If you don't agree, it is what it is. Like, look at your instance, right? You got mad, you didn't agree with what they were saying, they didn't like what you were saying, and they're your friends! That's kind of like being a human!

Shawn "Bingo" Green: And,

Rob Valincius: That's what can

Shawn "Bingo" Green: was in the, yeah, I was in the wrong, ultimately, because there, you can still have a love for something and then make fun of it. And, and I think at the end of the day, I had to admit to myself that Perfect Strangers, though, I love the sitcom very much, is kind of a shitty show and worth a little bit of ridicule.

Yeah. So it's, it's, you know, we all, we all grew, I think, from that, which is really the, what you want at the end of the day is. Is

Rob Valincius: Yeah, but I mean, that's healthy.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah.

Rob Valincius: disagreeing, right? You got pissed off, they got pissed off, you both disagreed, but at the end of the day they became friends. You know, or, or acquaintances to a certain degree. And, and that's, if more people did that, we'd have a much better world, at least so much better right now.

If you just not, not everyone's supposed to agree. Not everyone's supposed to, you know, a lot of the public opinion is like. 5 percent of the actual public. It's like they control the public opinion, you know, and it's out of, but, uh, I did want to talk to you a little bit about a little more about your show.

Um, where did you come up with the concept of a bingo? And

Shawn "Bingo" Green: yeah.

Rob Valincius: ahead.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: No, I, I did it before I started doing the sh So I was Sean Green. F Forever. And And recently, maybe like two years ago. Maybe a year and a half. I just decided one day with just my friends that I like hang out with and play like video games with I was like Hey guys, I want i'm bingo now Like I want you guys to call me bingo and one of my friends always is like absolutely man.

Cool He's always agrees. He's always a yes. Ander. He's like, yes, i'm an agent of chaos and I agree with you Uh, and and annoyed two of my other friends and so i'm like, oh cool. Well, then this is the bit This is what's happening now, and it's been It said so much now that it is, I'm just Bingo in every instance of my existence.

It's infiltrated my work. It's it's everything. It's everybody. I'm Bingo. Like, it's not just a show name. Like, I am Bingo. And it's a, it's a stupid, it's a stupid name. Who names, who wants to be called Bingo? Me apparently. Uh, a fun

Rob Valincius: know what though?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: a,

Rob Valincius: I was gonna say, there's definitely some stuff you could definitely fuck around with on that.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: sure. Sure. Part of the, part of the bit of being called bingo also, which I find very funny and no one else does is, uh, if people would be like, Oh, is that your name? Oh. And I'll be like, what, what do you, excuse me? Or they'd be like, Oh yeah, like the game. And I'm like, excuse me. Or like the dog. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

Like, what

Rob Valincius: Who the fuck is that?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: what are you talking about? And again, no one cares. No one thinks it's funny. I love it. I think it's a blast.

Rob Valincius: It's like if you name yourself Polo or something like that, like a Marco, you're like,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Where's Marco? And you're like, Yeah, Marco, what are you talking about? Like, you make them feel stupid for even saying that. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: I watched a couple episodes, and I gotta know, where the fuck did Bruce come from? How did, how did he get introduced to the show? And it's fucking hilarious, by the way.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: So Bruce Is a is a is a pup is a Boglin. It's a it's a very short lived 80s toy called Boglins. Look him up. They're one of my favorite things in the planet and I've had him for a long time and I have always and I would just do Instagram videos and stuff like that. I would just be like talking as Bruce and doing things saying weird stuff and just like that and it was always a fun thing.

And then I was doing This I was like, there needs to be something else to the show. I need a co hosting. I need something. So I made, I crafted and constructed a whole little puppet cage constructed. It's it's next to me. I wish I could show you in a, in a meaningful way. It, it is, uh, here, let me, let me do

Rob Valincius: Yeah. Come on, man. Let's see it. Let's see it. Cause I'll post this on YouTube either

Shawn "Bingo" Green: okay, perfect. So this is. This is, there's a weird contraption. It's made out of a, a, a, uh, a keyboard stand with some

Rob Valincius: was going to say I have that keyboard stand. I have that key fucking the same keyboard stand for my keyboard upstairs.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I ripped the fuck out of it apart. And I have this PVC contraption here that goes to a webcam right here. And that shows into Bruce's little thing here. And then I have, uh, hold on. Oh, Hey. How you doing, Rob? How are you? This camera's kind of messed up.

Rob Valincius: that is fucking awesome, dude.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Okay. See you later. Okay.

Rob Valincius: You're awesome, Bruce.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: and he, he, he's kind of acts as the de facto, like, um, I have a tendency in real life and then also my amped up caricature version of myself in the show to get very judgmental and shitty and persnickety and just like a little shit. And he is, when I have those thoughts of like, You gotta fucking dial it back, buddy.

He's the one who chimes in. I have another, I have one of those foot pedals that can switch the camera to the other camera. And he's well lit and everything like that. And then he'll be like, you know, Bingo, you're being, you know, you're a little out of hand here, buddy. It's a great, it's, it's funny. And that,

Rob Valincius: That's awesome Yeah,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: uh, where he'll play my, like, uh, I have a segment. I'm a graphic designer. That's my job. And so I have a lot of opinions on graphic design. So I have this segment I call Pretty Police, where I put on some aviators and I have a gun, and I'm like, Freeze, motherfucker!

You're fucking dead! Your logo sucks! And I'm very violent about it. And then sometimes he'll be my police chief, and he'll be like, Bingo, we've got a, you know, we've got a case for you. You've got to get, get a, take a look at this, guys. plumbing van. It's terrible. And I'm like, okay, chief. And then we'll do.

And so he adds an extra element of it. At least somebody else to like, kind of play off of, even if it is just me playing with myself, if that, it would

Rob Valincius: it's fine. You can stay there. You can stay there. It's alright. That's, that's, that's hilarious. Uh, and I do think in, in the stuff that I watched, you gotta do more of Bruce, man. He's gotta, he's gotta be, he's gotta be more involved because, like, I watched, any, any time he came on, I was dying. The voice is perfect, the, what you crafted for him is hilarious.

Uh, have you ever had anyone, like, have you ever invited, like, someone you were dating or whatever over, and they were like, What the fuck is this?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Dating is weird as a 44 year old man in in southwest Ohio. Anyway, it's also weird if you're like, Oh, I do it. I do a weekly podcast. It's like, oh, cool. How many listeners? And I'm like, no, not a

Rob Valincius: seven?

Shawn "Bingo" Green: it's like not a lot. And then they come over and they see, uh, My living room, which is dedicated mostly to this giant setup I have here with a big, giant, dumb computer.

And then this thing, like, I'm not tucking this away in a closet every week. I'm, you know, like, you know, I'm, it just stays out. It's part of the living arrangement. Uh, so they, they, so far, most have responded well. But, uh,

Rob Valincius: That is hilarious. I was thinking I'm like, I'm like, oh man, he's got to have a great setup and it's probably going to be so awkward. If you have someone over that you're like, you're, you're like trying to do a Netflix and chill type moment and they're like, what the fuck is that? You're like, well, that's Bruce.

You know, uh.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, it's either that or they'll be like, Is that Bruce? And that's when I know that they're worth keeping around. I'm like, okay, maybe you're alright, Carrie Anne. We'll

Rob Valincius: yeah, you're kind of cool. I like you

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, yeah. You've got a childlike whimsy, which is great.

Rob Valincius: Wait, I mean you're good with your hands um

Shawn "Bingo" Green: is in the Boglin.

Rob Valincius: is in the pudding, right? Um, I mean, dude, I have the same thing. So like, uh, it's weird. Alright, so the house we stay at, um, we have an in law suite down here. But we have the whole house, and we're trying to buy it. Uh, you know, uh, my fiance's mom is an interesting person.

Uh, but eventually we're going to move upstairs, and this will be my man cave down here. But this is where we live. So, when I was streaming, I have an Elgato green screen. Shout out, Elgato. Uh, which is amazing because, uh, this thing stands up and I don't have to tape it to anything.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I've been looking, I've been looking at one. I really want it. I need it.

Rob Valincius: It's a hundred and sixty bucks. I don't know if it went up in price, but, um, It I've had this for four, five years. amazing. I have two really small lights, nothing crazy. Um, but I mean, this was something I used during my podcast day or during my Twitch days. And it was great because I could take my background out.

It would just be me, right? It would be totally, uh, invisible behind me. And, you know, cause I was playing Valorant or apex or whatever. Um, but when I started podcasting, like I have this up because. My bed is back in the

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, yeah.

Rob Valincius: and my couch is over here and like my dog cages and crates are over there. It's like you can literally see my whole fucking existence.

So it's funny cause like a lot of my friends are like, dude, you know, we don't see anyone else that does a podcast that has a green screen where they don't do anything with it. I'm like, this is what blocks you guys from seeing my life. Like, like my bed, you know, and they'll do their podcast or beds behind him and shit.

I'm like, I can't do that, man. Like I need, This is our living room, our bedroom, our dining room. Like, I don't want I want to be

Shawn "Bingo" Green: that ship separate. Absolutely.

Rob Valincius: Right? This is my office. And, uh, the wifey always gets mad at me because I, I, I, I'm not putting this shit away. So, like, you know, I put it down, I, and it's, it's cool because it just, it just folds right down.

You know, you just cover it up with the, it's got a, the casing or whatever.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah.

Rob Valincius: And it's got two little feet that you just push in, but it sits in our living room, which is also, you know, our, our bedroom, kinda, you know, and she's, you know, she gets mad because it sits right there and I'm like, I'm not fucking moving that thing because it's in a perfect spot.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, I know

Rob Valincius: I just pull it up.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yep.

Rob Valincius: I just fuckin pulled up. Uh, my light, my one light that's here is always in the same spot. Which, today I moved it because like I told you I was messin with the fuckin lighting before this, this podcast. Um, but it's, I moved the lighting but it's normally in the same spot. She's like, but you moved this fuckin light.

And I'm like, no I can't. It's gotta stay right there.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Gotta stay there.

Rob Valincius: You know, this, this won't be a problem when we live upstairs, but it's a problem now because it's our life. You know, um, but I get, I get it, and, and, you know, even if I wasn't with her, it would be in the same exact fucking spot because, no, I'm not moving it.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: And that's, you know what? And, and that's what you get. That's, that's, everyone has something, right? That their partner's not going to

Rob Valincius: of habit. Creatures of habit,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah. And this keeps you happy. You know, keeps you. So I, it's a, I say it's a fine sacrifice. Uh, I can talk to her if you want me to. I can.

Rob Valincius: I, I only want you to talk to her as Bruce, though. I'm like, Hey,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: I was going to suggest that cause I, I would fuck that up. He would do great. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: I'm like, babe, listen, um, there's, there's a, uh, my new best friend, his name is Bruce. He, he has a PSA for you and then we'll just cut right to Bruce. Well, we should do it. Actually, we're going to make a video. You reach out to me. We'll do it. It'll be hilarious. It'll be fucking great. Um, so let's end on this.

Uh, you know, you have the over 200 episodes, you know, which is good. I mean, obviously you've, you've changed along the way and I think any good, um, podcast or streamer or someone that's on the internet. Change is good, right? A lot. I mean, we've all at this point changed and adapted our shows to what we like.

Along with what viewers like, because at the end of the day, that's what fuels us. Um, you know, tell me a little bit about kind of, you know, what have you learned along the way? You know, is there any tips that you can give to other people that are aspiring comedians or improv and, um, tell me a little bit about the streaming process and Twitch and how you, how you've kind of navigated through that.

It's more of a two parter

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Sure, yeah. It's funny. The main thing about if you're going to do anything is Figure out audio and normalize. If you have control over the audio that's going out after the fact, make sure that shit is normalized and don't blow people's eardrums out. I can't believe there are like the endless honeymoon podcast, a very well to do, well off podcast, very funny, professional, famous comedians.

Every once in a while, they'll have an episode where just their guests. Mike is just. Not figured out correctly and they don't do shit in post and it destroys my ears. If I'm in the car and it's terrible. Um, so

Rob Valincius: do it. I'll never do it. I won't release it. I won't release it.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: go in there and then adjust every single audio.

It's just, Oh, it's a mess. Um, I will say that even though the upfront, like. Annoyance and, and, and YouTube searches and figuring out audio stuff for doing a, a, a Twitch stream is, was a lot more than doing an initial podcast. The post work for doing a live show, especially if it's just me, I don't have another person's mic to deal with is it's 20 minutes tops where before it would be doing it in person live or in person, uh, co hosted, uh, Audio podcast, the post work would be hours because people don't talk into the mic the right way.

They might be like this. I didn't have the best mics at the time. And so it's just, it was a nightmare. This is just so quick again, it's 20 minutes of, of just like export, you know, getting the video, cutting the video and putting in the, you know, proper, whatever you need to put in there. If there's too long of a break, chopping that up and then exporting that and putting that on YouTube, writing up the show notes, it's, it's, it's nothing.

Um, So advice wise is just, I mean, okay, we'll say this advice wise. I don't know how any person, if you're going to stream, I don't know how any person can use voice meter products. I don't know if you fuck with voice meter, potato, banana. It's, it's basically a way to get your audio channels. To be separated.

So like your audio separate, your game audio separated, a phone call, audio separated, your browser is separated, but it's the most fucked up UI. And I've watched, I'm not joking. I paid him a weird Mormon kid on Fiverr to try to help me figure it out. He couldn't do it. I've watched videos, YouTube videos.

It's a nightmare. I will say this. Elgato, a fine brand and a fine, fine company has a thing called Wavelink, which is their, their mic, but they, and I don't have a Wavelink mic, but they have this software that makes that so much easier. It's, it's so much more streamlined and it, and it looks like an actual program that makes sense.

Not replicating some archaic, anachronistic piece of a heart of audio equipment that some fucking boomer has in their basement. Uh, so I would, I would look into that. Wavelink.

Rob Valincius: Wavelength. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I do this. Yeah. Like this, this program I use here, Squadcast is awesome because our video and audio are separate for each of us.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, that's great.

Rob Valincius: it's, yeah, it makes it nice and easy. Um, I've, I've, I've been editing my podcast in Adobe for the longest time. I

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Mm hmm.

Rob Valincius: Suite. It's awesome.

I taught myself how to use it. Um, it can get a little complex. Um, however, I've recently started, so my audio I've been messing with, uh, Audition, which is in Adobe, in the Adobe Suite, which is really easy,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Know it well.

Rob Valincius: But I've recently fucked with Descript, which owns Squadcast, they bought Squadcast, and you get it for free.

So what's cool is, is, with this podcast, with the podcast hosting of Buzzsprout, you get Descript and all the features for free, which has a ton of AI shit to it. I edited a full hour long video in ten minutes, with two sets of fucking data. My background and everything and then what's cool is is it gives you the transcript for the entire fucking

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh,

Rob Valincius: Which it crafts in like five minutes And you can highlight the text And then copy it over and that's a clip and it'll take the video And that audio and the fucking um, Subtitles and put it into a whole clip.

It is it is ridiculous. It is so oh, dude Yeah, if you're listening to this and you're thinking about starting a podcast or you have a podcast Look at squad D script, it's 30 bucks a month. You will not get a better deal. for 30 bucks a month to host your podcast as well at like, be a a, an aggregator for the podcast, which posted everywhere and be able to edit every fucking thing you could do.

Audio, video, it, it'll do all of your fucking, um, I, I've recently started doing blogs with, with my I, so I'm an I my degree's in it, so. I'm not a graphic designer like you, but I designed my website and it's, it's, it's, it's okay. It's, I, I use Divvy. Um, divvy works well with, uh, WordPress. It's like a, um, it's a good plugin to use for, and I pay, I think it was like $200 for a lifetime membership.

And they actually have like, just standard webpage. Um. Templates that you can use. So I built my page based off the template and then I started using, I'm going to start blogging episodes. So I'm taking the transcript from our episode, putting it in chat, GPT.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Okay.

Rob Valincius: Having it summarize what we talk about and then make a blog based on that.

And it helps with SEO. It helps with a lot of, I'm trying to do things. I don't know. I didn't do

Shawn "Bingo" Green: really smart. I've never even considered doing that. I'm very bad at everything podcast scene. It's Yeah, that is

Rob Valincius: you let me know, man, you let me know. I'll give you some ideas if

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: I'm a host of random shit, like some shit fails. I don't know if it's going to work or not, you know? Uh, uh, but I'm hoping it'll help, uh, increase the SEO on the website I made. And, who knows, maybe it'll, you know, get some random people.

I get random people actually that fill out my form, that'll ask me to be guests all the time. So, I mean, it's doing something on the internet. Do I know what it's doing? Who fu who fu Who knows what the fucking algorithm's doing? You know,

Shawn "Bingo" Green: who knows what, what the Lord algorithm is doing out there.

Rob Valincius: Fucking T 1000 over there, figuring out, you know, what's what's gonna happen. But, look man, we hit we hit the hour mark, uh, ish. And, uh, it was a pleasure chatting with you. Can you, um, tell everybody in the audience, everyone listening, where they can find your content, um, and if you got anything going on now and in the future.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, uh, so my podcast is called halfway. Okay. That's all one word. H a l f w w a y. Okay. A y. That's where I'm at on social. Um, I'm not as good as updating my social as I should be. I'll get I'm getting better with that. Um, but yeah, we do every Wednesday at eight p. m. Eastern Standard Time. We do a live show runs about two hours unless something weird is going on.

One of them, uh, stuff. Okay. Um, uh, recently there was a balloon, uh, an episode where I made, I attached helium balloons to an Afghan that was covering my naked lower half. And the more viewers we got, I would attach another balloon. And then it would, the idea was it would raise the balloon above my head and show the world my penis.

Um, so that was,

Rob Valincius: It's fucking

Shawn "Bingo" Green: one ran long. That was longer than two hours. That was episode 193. That was a good episode. It was actually a

Rob Valincius: That should have been 200, man. That should have been

Shawn "Bingo" Green: have. It should have. But I wouldn't. Well, the joke was, it's a long, it's a long story. It was especially, it was the halfway. Oh, hi. So it's 320. So it was on March 20th because we didn't have a show on 420.

Because, because the way the, it was, it's very, it's a very stupid show. I'm a dumb clown man, and if anyone watches my show, I'd really appreciate it. I, the puppet's very cute. Um, and that, yeah, that's pretty much, I don't have anything else, anything else going on of, of, uh, of real substance. It's just that, and, uh, and I love doing it.

Uh, so halfway okay.

Rob Valincius: Awesome, awesome. I need more Bruce, man. Give me fucking more

Shawn "Bingo" Green: know what, I'm, I'm, I'm taking a note right now, taking a note. More Bruce. Alright, there we go.

Rob Valincius: Bruce, Bruce was hilarious. And honestly, I, I clicked on any, Anything on your Instagram that had Bruce, I'm like, I gotta, I gotta see what he's saying. You know, so, uh, lean

Shawn "Bingo" Green: happen to catch him, uh, serenading me to Coldplay's Yellow?

Rob Valincius: I did. I did.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: That was a, that was a seminal moment for me and Bruce. That was a very sweet moment. I, I, yeah, it was a very good moment. Uh, that's, I don't remember which episode that was, but it's out there, folks. So

Rob Valincius: man on Instagram. And make sure you check out, no, no offense, Sean. I mean, bingo, uh, Bruce. Bruce is the man we, you know, I, I like Bruce, uh, for my podcast. You could follow me anywhere. Do you listen to podcasts? Just drink a clock, uh, drink a clock pod on every fucking thing, social that you can think of.

Um, and, uh, we'll have a blog out for the episode. All this stuff will be done. Uh, this will be either next week or the week after, whenever I get to get around a fucking, uh, Having time to live life, but also do this, especially it's a holiday weekend. So I'm probably going to get drunk tonight because I haven't drank in two days.

So, you know, record for me there. Uh, but look, it was a pleasure having you on man. And, uh, let's do this again soon.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Absolutely, man.

Rob Valincius: If Bruce gets, if Bruce, if Bruce gets famous, we're having a full Bruce episode.

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Oh, I'm there. He's there too. He loves it. He lives for this.

Rob Valincius: It'll be great. Awesome, dude. We look, you have a great night, man. Thank you

Shawn "Bingo" Green: Yeah, you too. Have a good one.

Rob Valincius: You too.

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