Bum Wine Bob

Bum Wine Bob is a bum wine connoisseur, bottom shelf booze expert, and podcaster on Bumming with Bobcat. We get into what bum wines are, why bottles are superior to plastic, and some of the worst foods to vomit. You can find  Bum Wine Bob's content via his website bumwinebob.com.

Transcript

Intro 

Rob Valincius: Boom. Welcome to the Drink O Clock podcast. I'm your host Rob Valincius, and I have fucking bum wine Bob, I'm, I'm fucking excited to have you on, brother. How is your evening, sir? 

Bum Wine Bob: I'm doing good, doing good, happy to be here, man. Yeah, we've been going back and forth for a little while saying, Hey, we got to do a podcast together. And now here we are,

Rob Valincius: Figures are shit like, melts pretty well, right?

Bum Wine Bob: I know drinking I'm, I'm, I'm Bob. You're Rob. So, I mean, it's, it's, it's a match

Rob Valincius: the beards,

Bum Wine Bob: Exactly. Exactly. I mean, we're both, I mean, I have a hat on, but you know, we both have the, you know, the hair

Rob Valincius: it's been gone for a

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, yeah. We don't need to, we won't, we won't. We won't get into that and I and I did I did want to match your your background over there I mean I was pre game. Yes, this looks like a can of Mountain Dew But I did pour in a little uh Southern Comfort in here as a little podcast Pre game so I could match that that green background you I'm so accustomed to seeing over there

Rob Valincius: Cheers, brother. Cheers. So,

Bum Wine Bob: So what are you drinking over there? Uh,

Rob Valincius: it because, uh, I, unfortunately I have COVID and for the second time and, uh, my taste has just gone. Now, for those of you out there that aren't, uh, drinkers, it's, it's a blessing and a curse because when you can't taste anything, boy, do things go down very easily.

Bum Wine Bob: exactly at that point you can drink whatever you want. I mean I have a, I mean, I have a whole line up here of empty stuff that I've been drinking on my show for the past couple weeks. So I have like some, uh, I got some, I got some bourbon over here. I got some quarter horse, uh, bourbon out here. So, but yes, I know what you're saying.

You can just drink and drink and be like, okay, tastes fine to me. I can't taste anything.

Rob Valincius: You just feel a little bit of the burn, but you know, and and here's the thing so this is an old fashioned and I really enjoy this old fashioned because I drink them typically once a week So it's really bothering me that I can't fucking taste it But you know whatever I'm over it. I'm on like The end of it, you know, uh, two days ago I was fucking dying.

I was like sweating buckets and I was fucking, I had to shakes and I'll do it. It was, it was, and I'm vaccinated, which is even fucking worse. I never went to fucking do that to begin with, but I've only ever gotten COVID after I was vaccinated. So go figure fucking great vaccine, people.

Bum Wine Bob: how it works, you see.

Rob Valincius: great fucking vaccine.

You fucking cocksuckers. Um, anyway, so bum wine, Bob, you're. A bum wine con Ofie, you're a bottom shelf booze expert, which I fucking love. I love that statement by the way. Um, you're a podcaster, uh, for your podcast, bumming with Bobcat, and your co-host is Roadhouse

Bum Wine Bob: Yep.

Rob Valincius: and you're sponsored by Four Loco, which is pretty fucking

Bum Wine Bob: the, I got the hat here. I got the, I got a sticker too. I mean, only the best here that, that they, uh, that they hook you up with there. And I got, as I said, I got remnants here of some previous podcasts. I got my four local games

Rob Valincius: that your, your Jungle Juice episode was pretty funny. I was actually fucking dying from

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, well, I mean, I had, well, a little peek behind the curtain here. Yes, we did, uh, Jungle Juice, this guy here. And then a Four Loko Jungle Juice to compare the two drinks. And the aftermath was me throwing up. So that's what happens. Uh, do not, do not mix the two. We mixed, we mixed the two together. Uh, And that was probably, it, it didn't taste bad, it really wasn't that bad of a drink, but the aftermath, and I was really, it was like those two, I had a PBR earlier and a Miller Lite that I was sipping on during, it's not like I drank like a ton of other stuff with it, but it was just the combination of those two, cause after we were done recording, I then was out there, you know, sitting here and you know, sometimes you have that buzz going and you're just like, okay, I want to keep it going.

It's a Friday night. Just,

Rob Valincius: yeah, especially a Friday night.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah. Yeah. Just like, I'm just hanging out. So you start going on YouTube, you're, you're watching videos, you're listening to music. And then I saw, uh, some, some people I know, We're streaming live. So I'm like, hey, let me let me join in. I'm gonna join in with those guys So I'm on one live stream with my buddy uncle and then their their show ends I go to the next one.

I find somebody else. They're doing some malt liquor I'm like, I'm hopping in on that one and you know a couple hours go by and then you go to stand up you're like

Rob Valincius: Whoa.

Bum Wine Bob: this is not it's not good. I go upstairs And that's when you feel the rumble, and you're like, oh shit, this is, this is coming up, and next thing you know you're going to the bathroom, and, there, we don't need to go into any more detail, you know what happens after that point.

Rob Valincius: so what's the worst thing you've ever thrown up?

Bum Wine Bob: The worst thing, at least one of the first things that I drank and threw up, and one of those, that was on like the no fly list, for the longest time, was probably in my teenage years, was having, Doing shots of Absolute Citron. Like, during the craze of like, Absolute Vodka was like the biggest thing around.

They had all the different flavors. And a buddy of mine, him and his parents had gone on a cruise somewhere and came back with like all these bottles of booze. And we would have parties and we were probably somewhere between 18 and 21 at that point. So at that point, you're just drinking whatever. You can get your hands on, and we're just taking shots of this absolute citron, and we're at this party, and there's this girl sitting on a couch, and all of a sudden she just turns to her side and just starts throwing up on the floor.

And I try to be like, the nice guy, and I'm like, don't worry, I'll clean this up. So, you know, I'm trying to clean up everything, get her all cleaned up, the second I go outside Mine comes

Rob Valincius: oh, yeah, cuz you know, you're smelling hers too, dude. And other vomit just makes you want to vomit. I had, I had a, uh, a Citron experience myself. It was actually, I think the, one of the first things I ever got drunk on. I don't know. I believe it was absolute. Um, it could have been, it could have been something else, but I think it was absolute because it was pretty cheap too.

Um, it wasn't too crazy. It was a bottom shelf, but it wasn't top

Bum Wine Bob: Exactly it's like that mid level. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: a mid, and uh, I got fuckin wasted with a friend that was, we, he lived like eight, eight doors down from my house, and uh, I was eating cheese fries, I was fuckin it was hilarious, and then, so, in my mind, I was like, alright, I gotta pee.

So, I go into the bathroom, I'm peeing, I see the toilet, everything's going great, but what was really happening is I was actually facing the opposite direction, and I was just pissing all over the floor. And, mind you, I'm 14. So like,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah,

Rob Valincius: like, it's like, you're a kid, and you're obliterated, so like, I'm just, I, in my head, and I still remember to this day, I'm like, oh man, I don't know how I wasn't peeing in the toilet, because I saw the toilet.

And in my head, I'm peeing in the toilet, but I wasn't. I was the opposite direction, pissing on the floor. That was my first drunk experience. But, what The second part to this question is, What's the worst food you've ever thrown up doo doo out?

Bum Wine Bob: that's a good one, uh, I mean Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Rob Valincius: it. I once pre gamed, so, uh, what state are you in?

Bum Wine Bob: New Jersey.

Rob Valincius: That's what I thought, that's what I thought. So, um, cause I I I saw your show, I saw some stuff about the Jets, I'm like, alright, he's a he's a

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah.

Rob Valincius: Um, so, I pre games, there's a, uh, a famous, uh, buffet in Pennsylvania called Shady Maple Schmorgasbord.

I don't know if you've ever heard of it,

Bum Wine Bob: never heard of it, but I like that name. That's a great name. You smorgasbord. Shady Maples, you

Rob Valincius: Maple

Bum Wine Bob: Okay, alright. I like where this is going so far. We're at a good spot.

Rob Valincius: the Amish run it, okay, um, it's legit. It is. It is hands down the best buffet. Like if you want it to ever make like a trip to eat some fucking banging buffet food, this place is wild. It's right by intercourse, Pennsylvania and blue ball. Literally they, they actually intercourse each

Bum Wine Bob: That's right where it meets up. It's right there.

Rob Valincius: Uh, I bowled actually once at blue ball bowling lanes.

Hilarious. Um, but this place is amazing. Well, I decided as a dumb young guy, I think I was two years old. And we were going up with some friends. I pre gamed so but at the time what I was doing is this is when vanilla soda was Popular with vanilla vodka

Bum Wine Bob: Okay.

Rob Valincius: or or uh whipped. I'm sorry whipped. This is when whipped vodka was big.

So this is like 2009

Bum Wine Bob: gonna say, I was, I've been there, I was at all those bars at the time where I got, uh, like the free shot glasses and everything, all like the swag when they would have the girls there promoting it, doing free shots and all that. So I'm with you, I know where you're at.

Rob Valincius: Pinnacle Whips was like the thing, right? You know, you had a chocolate covered pretzel shot, you had some pretty delicious shots. Well, um, I, what I would do is I'd take the whipped vodka and I would mix it with, uh, vanilla cream soda. And it was amazing. However, you couldn't taste any vodka, so I would pour so much in there.

Well, I got obliterated before we got there. Like, I was fuckin wasted. I wasn't driving, thank God. Um, and, so the first thing you do when you're drunk is you want to eat a ton of carbs. So, my plate had, like, chicken fingers, french fries, and a boatload of mashed potatoes. And The last thing I ate was the mashed potatoes, and I got sick.

So I'm like, alright, I gotta go throw up. So I go into the bathroom, and I'm basically passed out on the toilet. But I remember throwing up the mashed potatoes, and because I had just eaten them, they were just, they were rolling like a snail out of my mouth. It was the most disgusting, and, and, once again, I'm fucked, I'll be 38.

This was literally almost 20 years ago, and I still remember it to this day. It's the most disgusting Like i've thrown up plenty of things that hurt like throwing up pasta sucks, you know throwing up

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, anything you, when it's like when it's acidic and it's just when it burns coming up and it's just the worst feeling in the world, oh, yeah,

Rob Valincius: throwing up freshly eaten mashed potatoes That are Amish made from like legit potatoes, dude. It was rolling, like, I'm like throwing up and it's just like,

Bum Wine Bob: yeah,

Rob Valincius: it's like, this is, it's just not coming out fast enough and you're just like, oh, this is fucking disgusting. Uh, moral of the story, don't get wasted before you go to an excellent buffet.

My buddy actually had to crawl under the stall. To wake me up because I passed out on the toilet throwing up and, uh, and then we went out and partied later on. I don't, I don't know how you do that shit in your 20s, dude. It's, it's absurd. Now I get, if, if I get obliterated, I'm done for like three days,

Bum Wine Bob: exactly that that next day, even like I told you my incident last week, the next morning was, it was rough and. I was going to a, uh, Memorial Day party at a friend's house, and still took it pretty easy. I mean, we were, we were throwing back some, uh, a buddy of mine brought some, some Coors Banquet beers.

And you, you can't turn down, you can't turn down any banquet beers. And, but, but those things go down so smooth, it's like, it's, it's just, it's what I said, Rocky Mountain water. It, it doesn't, it doesn't phase you. But, I think that was the last time. I drank since then, was, was last Saturday. So, and in, in that case, it's time to, uh, crack

Rob Valincius: you gotta, you gotta make up for, for lost time

Bum Wine Bob: I know, I know.

You see Cheers.

Rob Valincius: So, oh, well, I got, I got a drink if you cheers me. That's, those are the rules on the

Bum Wine Bob: are the rule. Those are the rules, man.

Rob Valincius: I don't make them, I just abide by them.

Bum Wine Bob: I know. And I, and I have to, I have to coordinate with my, uh, my poster in the background there. So I have the, the PBR here,

Rob Valincius: look PBR is just it's just one of those beers That's always one of the cheapest things you can get and it's it's typically cold and it's never bad you never have a bad PBR man,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, it's basic, basic beers. That's, that's what I like. I just want, I want a beer that tastes like a beer.

Rob Valincius: And I'm a basic bitch,

Bum Wine Bob: fancy.

Rob Valincius: yeah, I'm a basic bitch like, you know, I've been made fun of for years, but like I drink Bud Lights, I drink Miller Lights, Michelob Ultras. That's just what I like to drink. 'cause I could drink 20 of them. Like when we, we went to a family event. I brought, I had, I bought a 30 pack of Michelob Ultra.

Um, and I could fit 27 of them in this like, cooler bag I had. And we Ubered, uh, so I could drink whatever I want between me and the wifey. We drank probably 11 each in like a six hour period. And we also pre gamed, so, but like, Mickelobe Ultras go down, I mean, there's,

Bum Wine Bob: Oh yeah, that's just, there's nothing to it. Yeah, yeah.

Rob Valincius: Yeah, you know. Um, but let's talk a little bit about you, man.

Um, you know, my first question to you, sir, is, where'd the Bumwine Bob persona come from? How'd he get, how'd he get started?

Bum Wine Bob: well, I had a affinity for cheap booze and Cheap alcohol, before any of this even started, so it really, the real origin of it came from the Night Train Express. And you know the song, Night Train, by Guns N Roses, which is about the night train, which I got down here. Which is This guy, right here. The Nitran Express.

The legendary cheap wine. And, uh,

Rob Valincius: Oh, that looks

Bum Wine Bob: we had, I know, it is, see? I know. So, Uh, a buddy of mine, was like, have you ever had this before? And this was back in, uh, 2010. And he said, I know a guy, I know a place where we can get this. I'm gonna get it and we'll try it out. And this was actually for my bachelor party.

We picked up Nitran Express. And had it for the first time. We were down in Atlantic City. So

Rob Valincius: Fuckin A. C., baby. A. C.!

Bum Wine Bob: we're in the, in the, in the hotel room. We, we cracked that open and I had that first sip and you felt the, the warmth of it just overtake you. And next thing you know, I'm running down the hall of the.

Going into the elevator on the railing, shaking it as if I'm the ultimate warrior. Getting, getting amped up to go downstairs to, uh, to go gamble and hang out, do whatever we were doing. So, pretty much from that point of trying that, I then made it my mission, in a sense, to try all the other cheap fortified wines like Thunderbird, MD 2020, Cisco, Wild Irish Rose, all the things that were on the, uh, if you've ever been to, if you've ever been to bumwine.

com, which was this original website from like 2003, that, uh, Featured all these cheap bottom shelf wines and they had like this lineup of all five of them And I was like shit I want to try all these out and give them a shot and my friends are like what is wrong with you. Why are you? Why are you drinking this?

I'm like don't don't worry. This will all pay off one day So it took a few years and then I came up with the idea Idea And just one night sitting, I think laying in bed, I was like, What if I had a, like a late night talk show where I had guests on and we talked about these cheap drinks? And then all of a sudden I was like, well, At the time, this was before podcasting really had taken off to where it is now, and I said, Well, let me start a blog.

I'll start a blog first. I'll write about it. Try to gain a following, because not many people are out there writing about this cheap stuff. You see people talk about Craft Beer, all this other higher end stuff. But where's, but where's this, where's the love for the bottom shelf? So, so started with that and then that was 10 years ago and in 2014 coming up with the the website at bonewinebob.

com and then in 2015 I started with the podcast and running it as like a a radio show at the time where you do it live have callers and just kind of shoot the breeze for a half hour with it and then it kind of just evolved and Where the actual, it was just like, what's my name? I'm Bob, Bumwine, Bumwine, Bob.

Uh, a friend of mine called me Bobcat for whatever reason as a nickname. So I was like, Oh, bumming with Bobcat. Like it all, it all works out. So, so that's kind of the, the, the cliff notes shortened version of how we got to where we are today.

Rob Valincius: origin story, I love it. So, tell me what the hangover is like from that fucking night train. It's gotta be pretty bad, right?

Bum Wine Bob: uh, if you, when we were talking about growing up in drunk stories in Atlantic City, this was a few years after my first experience with it. I was down there again for a friend of mine for his bachelor party, and we picked up a case of Night Train. So, twelve bottles to bring down with us, and on our way down, we stopped at a liquor store, and they had the smaller bottles, like, this is the 750 milliliter, they had the little smaller 350s, so we're like, well shit, you can't not buy it, it's smaller, you can carry it around with you and drink it, so we picked up a couple of those, Got that to Lenox City.

This was on a Thursday afternoon. We got down there. We're hanging out. Crack it open. Start drinking it. down to the casino. We have the bottle with us. The little one. Going around drinking it. Finished the one little bottle. Went upstairs. Refilled it with the big bottle. To bring it

Rob Valincius: Bro move, bro move,

Bum Wine Bob: And, and Probably by about 9pm, I was, I was, I was gone.

And, uh, my other friends start showing up, we're in the hotel room, I'm just sitting there in the, in the chair in the room, and I, I look over, and one friend's like, Hey man, are you okay? And I'm like, I stand up, and I said, I have to go let some passengers off. And I went into the bathroom, and proceeded to violently throw up.

And I think I might have locked the door too, so nobody could get in there. And people knocking like, like, hey, are you okay? I'm like, I'm like, I'm fine, I'm fine, just, just leave me here. So I, I throw up, I stumble back out, I lay in the bed, and I, I'm passed out, and my one other friend was on his way down at the time, he shows up, uh, there is pictures that he took of me, and videos of me, snoring, I'm, I'm in the bed, I'm, I'm fully clad, my glasses are on, I'm just laying back, shoes, shirt, button down shirt, like ready to go out, like, I was just done, and I woke up at maybe 2, 3 in the morning, And I couldn't find my glasses because I had taken them off and I put them in the drawer in the

Rob Valincius: Jesus

Bum Wine Bob: I wake my friend I'm like, where are my glasses?

And my friend's like, what are you talking about? He's like you put them in the drawer and I go and I look I'm like, oh, okay I fall back asleep And that was probably one of those three day. That was a thursday night friday saturday I I was like Dead. I, I tried, I mean, I still tried to drink and I was trying to find whatever I could do to cure it, but that was just an overkill of Nitrate Express that if you go too far with that stuff, it's gonna, it puts a real hurting on you.

Rob Valincius: you take the express, don't expect to come back anytime

Bum Wine Bob: no, no, no, that's, that's a one way trip to nowhere. Yeah,

Rob Valincius: I mean, we were in our early 20's, and it was just me and him in his apartment. I moved in, and it was It was a terrible idea. It was an awful, awful idea. And, we would, uh, we didn't have money. We were pretty poor. You know, we paid our bills, we worked all the time, you know,

Bum Wine Bob: you just scrape up the change you have left over to buy whatever booze you can. It's

Rob Valincius: the, I worked at GameStop at the time. I was the store manager. He was my assistant, I think. I think he was either my assistant or my, my, uh, third key, like my, my third supervisor. And, um, It wasn't okay for us to live together, but we didn't tell anybody for a while. And, what ended up happening was, is we, we just found this like, happy medium of eating, uh, either pizza, Taco Bell, and we would drink Vladimir vodka.

Which is basically nail polish remover. In, in the,

Bum Wine Bob: Ooh,

Rob Valincius: vodka world, right? Um,

Bum Wine Bob: like another one in the big plastic jug type

Rob Valincius: Yeah. Yeah. It's Vladimir Nikolai. I mean, a lot of it's like, you know, obviously fake Russian names that is, is made and they like, it's some scientists. It's like, it's not nail polish remover. It's vodka,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, don't worry. It's not rubbing alcohol, but it's pretty damn close.

Rob Valincius: And, and we would, we would put that shit in the freezer and, you know, we would drink it, but it was. I mean, and I drank that stuff too when I was a little bit younger because it, you know, obviously the cheaper booze is all you can get. Um, and I would drink, I would drink that. I remember one time, uh, I would, I would drink that with my buddy Brian.

Uh, we would go to the movies and we would do a wah wah fruit punch and we would just take a fucking wah wah fruit punch, like half gallon and just fucking just pour vodka in it. And we would bring that into the movie theater and we would get loaded and we would. Almost certainly one of us would vomit from that every time.

Like, it is I can't imagine what my actual liver looks like. I actually make fun of it. I tell people now my liver probably is absorbed other organs at this point.

Bum Wine Bob: It's all, it's all one big one now.

Rob Valincius: yeah, yeah. It's, it's a super liver. It's, it's fine. It's, you know, like AI it's, it's not

Bum Wine Bob: yeah. It builds character. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: Um, so for, for the audience, can you explain what, what bum wine is?

Cause I'm not going to lie. I've never heard that term until really kind of researching. Like kind of what you do and and what those brands are

Bum Wine Bob: Right. The, the, the, the bum wine itself, the name really is just a, a slang term for cheap fortified wine. And it's essentially like the cheapest, process of making wine possible. Like, these here, I'm trying to think, one of these I believe said what it is, and it's, it's essentially just cheap sugar, the cheapest wine possible, uh, to make.

I mean, if you can look, and I can see really quick here, like, like fortified wine. Yeah, fortified wine is a wine that contains a distilled spirit like brandy. Uh, they differ in flavor based on their ingredients and degree of fermentation. Though, moderate intake of fortified wine may offer health benefits, drinking it in excess may harm your health.

So, yeah, I don't think there's really any benefit of drinking this. Drinking it in excess may harm your health, yes, for sure, that 100 percent is true, I would believe that. And it's, uh, yeah, it's essentially just cheap, cheap ass wine, really, is what it comes down to. Cheap ass wine, people would call it ghetto wines, uh, Bum wines.

That's just the terminology of whoever came up with that years ago, which is because they would say that's what the, the bums would pick up would be wherever they had whatever change they could get for a couple of bucks, a bottle of nitrene or something similar at. And remember, this is at 17. 5 percent alcohol.

Rob Valincius: fucking crazy

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, so it's going to get you

Rob Valincius: That's gonna get you fucked up,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: Holy shit, my dad. Um, we would um When I was younger before I was turned 21 We would we would pay my dad and sometimes he he would he would get us He would get us boobs, right? but he was Busting his ass and he was fucking we're you know, we come from I come from a poor family And he would try to play shit off.

He would get us some fucking md 2020. He'd get us a mad

Bum Wine Bob: Mm hmm.

Rob Valincius: And I'd say to him like dad we fucking we're not idiots We know this shit is four bucks and we gave you 20

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: pocketed 15 after tax Yeah

Bum Wine Bob: are you doing?

Rob Valincius: What's the red? Is the red one fruit punch?

Bum Wine Bob: Uh, there Well, which red do you want? There's a There's a banana red. Uh, there's a strawberry kiwi.

Rob Valincius: Maybe it was a strawberry

Bum Wine Bob: Might be that. Yeah. There's no Fruit punch. Uh, there's a, there's a dragon fruit. Maybe that one. There's a dragon fruit. I have all this stuff ready. It's all right here. It's all readily available. Don't worry.

This, this is how you prepare people.

Rob Valincius: That is hilarious. Um So yeah, he would get us those and we would fucking like we we were like dude, we gave you a 20. You owe us money. What the fuck is this shit? We're not gonna get drunk, like, I don't know what you think we are, we're not babies.

Like, this, this, this shit is Like, yeah, motherfucker, you're stealing our money, man. Uh, and he even played off, like, hey, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm taking all the risk here. I'm like, ah, you know what, shut the

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah. It's a tax. You know.

Rob Valincius: shut the

Bum Wine Bob: dad, dad tax.

Rob Valincius: Um, let's talk a little bit about Bumwine, man. I gotta know.

What is the best tasting bum wine you've had? And what is the worst tasting bum wine you've ever had?

Bum Wine Bob: Well, the best ones, I would have to say, are probably, as we were just talking about, the varieties of MD 2020. I mean, you have different flavors. Of that, like your Blue Raspberry, your Orange, they have a Pineapple one now, and some of those are actually pretty tasty to drink. Uh, those are at 13%, so they're a little less than like your, your Night Train over here.

So, those are all ways. good to drinkI mean, well good, good to drink

Rob Valincius: The amount of sugar in those motherfuckers are probably insane.

Bum Wine Bob: you really, you shouldn't really be drinking a whole bottle yourself at all.

Rob Valincius: diabetes.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, if you're doing it to share with people. You pass it around, or you're gonna mix something with it. That's probably your best bet.

Rob Valincius: Yeah.

Bum Wine Bob: But there's other ones, like uh, have you ever had Cisco?

Rob Valincius: Now I know what it is.

Bum Wine Bob: Okay, yeah, that's the one that is, like, the extreme bumwine that was, like, like Four Loko was, the original Four Loko was, was killing people when that was out because of the alcohol and the caffeine, and that was in, like, the mid to late 2000s. In the early 90s, you can find stories about Cisco.

Being a similar thing because of how the bottle was people were mistaking it for a wine cooler It looked like a barls and james type Drink and a wine cooler is like four or five percent. I mean, there's nothing to The alcohol in a wine cooler, but a bottle of cisco is at 17 So People were drinking these down now I don't know how you could really drink you because you can't drink it like a wine cooler.

It's definitely a totally different taste to it. You'll taste the alcohol in it, but some of those, like, there's a green apple one that was a really raunchy flavor, and

Rob Valincius: can see the flashbacks in your eyes, bro. You're like, ah,

Bum Wine Bob: and I, and I tried to document as much of this stuff as I could at the time, because a lot of these have been discontinued, like the Night Train and Thunderbird, uh, They've been, they were discontinued maybe five, six years ago, so they're not readily available.

If you get lucky, and you can find that, that golden goose on the shelf at a store that's covered in dust. Make sure to pick it up because you might not see it again I mean, you you know, you go into some shady spots You go searching and we always that's what me and my buddy roadhouse always say We say go in go in searching the bottom shelf because you never know what you might find That there's this one lonely bottle that's been sitting there covered in dust for years And it's out there waiting for you and the same thing with the cisco that that's been discontinued md2020 still out there That's still You They're still going strong out there.

They actually came up with a new flavor, uh, earlier this year, a spiked flavor, which was like, it's just a, they called it spiked. And I was thinking like, uh, a spike, like tea, like you think spike a lot of times you think like an Arnold Palmer or like a hard iced tea type, like a Mike's hard, I don't know.

That's what, that's what I thought when I said it was MD 2020 spiked, but it's essentially just a sweeter red wine. And it's not bad, it just wasn't what I thought it was going to be going into it. So, they're still going strong with that stuff. But,

Rob Valincius: wild to me. They're, I mean, with inflation, their profit margins have to be getting smaller and smaller. And their main people buying this shit is, like, bumps and, like, super poor people. You know? So it's like, uh, or like, 21 year olds who

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, cheap, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the best bang for the buck.

Rob Valincius: I mean, dude, it, it, it I mean, even at 13 percent with Mad Dog, I mean, most like, especially like white wines, most of them, you know, aren't crackin 11 12%.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, yeah, it's on point. Yeah, it's on point. It's not too crazy for a 13%. Uh, MD 2020, uh, compared to your regular bottle of wine. I think these just have a lot more sugar and additives to them compared to a regular bottle of, of white wine.

Rob Valincius: So, tell me a little bit about, uh, you know, obviously you do this podcast and you drink. Has there ever been a time where you got fuckin super loaded?

Bum Wine Bob: Well, there were, there, there have, there have been some, yes, there have been some, and where we did the, uh, On the Cisco line, last year, or the year before, uh, we did the, we did the Snoopy Special. Which was a, a 40 of, uh, I think I did an Old English. And, but you can use any 40 you want, you want Colt 45, whatever, malt liquor.

Uh, you drink it down to about the, the label. And then you pour in a bottle of Cisco. Into it, so we did, we did Cisco Berry in there. So you get a nice, uh, nice purple green tint to your, to your malt liquor with that. And I remember that one was one that was very, uh, was feeling that one. I mean, there's definitely been a lot of episodes of I've never, but I've never thrown up during an episode.

After, yes, as I said. The other night, but Ha ha ha ha ha

Rob Valincius: that's wild dude. I mean, so, so when I started, when I started this, I was streaming video games and I've, I've talked about this before, but, um, I got, so I make, I make my own, uh, margaritas, I call them robberitas. And it's, it's late, it's literally just, it's a cup of tequila and, Half a cup of lime juice, half a couple, uh, half a cup of triple sec alcohol, triple sec.

And you can't have, like, if you have three, you're going to black out. Two, you brown out. One, you, you, you catch a really nice buzz. And I didn't follow my own rules. And I think I had, I hit three. And, or I was drinking the third one. And I was streaming, like I was live. I was gaming with my buddies. And I just said, hey, I gotta pee, and I got up, I didn't need to pee.

I took my pants off, I went around my green screen, and I just face planted into my bed and went to bed. Like, there was nothing to it.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, ha ha ha

Rob Valincius: my buddies know my fiance, so they're like, sending her messages and calling her, like, we think Rob died. Cause my stream was up. I was live for another 13

Bum Wine Bob: just empty, yeah Just an empty chair, nobody there Ha ha ha ha

Rob Valincius: I don't even know what game was on, I don't know. I was just, like, I think with, with how I am now, I have this certain line, and if I cross it, I just go to sleep. Like, I don't even, like, I don't even function. Like, when I was in my 20s, and I got drunk, I would have a whole fucking night that I don't remember, you know?

Uh, but then, like, it's like as soon as you hit 30, I hit that line, and I'm like, I just go to sleep. There's, there's no, like, I don't remember what happened, it's, I went to bed. Heh heh,

Bum Wine Bob: Right exactly that point where you wouldn't remember was that you just went to bed. It wasn't we're going out. We're doing this we're doing that and Yeah, like I said, I've been there too Yeah back in the in the day when you'd be out there and you just be drinking and you wake up the next day Like what did we do last night?

It's like oh, yeah, you did this so you did that. You're like, I have no idea. I

Rob Valincius: fuckin idea that I did that. Dude, the one time I fuckin drove home, this was like, peak, I think I was, I was 23, maybe. This was like, peak Thirsty Thursday, where we're fuckin goin out. And this bar that we used to go to had, um, Mm Thirsty Thursday special and it was it was a silver coin night so you could just bring a Stack of nickels and I was working a game stuff at the time.

So I would take a 2 roll of nickels. I put two bucks in, take 2 roll of nickels and I go to the bar and it was, it was bottom shelf shit. So, you know, it was just, you want to, you want to rum and Coke? It's, it's bottom shelf rum, whatever, but it was a nickel. So I get there at seven, I think it started at seven and by 10 o'clock I'm obliterated because I've had, you know, 30 drinks and I haven't even spent 2.

Um,

Bum Wine Bob: it. That, that's it.

Rob Valincius: yeah. And, but I, you know, Uber didn't exist then.

Bum Wine Bob: Mm-Hmm.

Rob Valincius: Right? So, like, the one time I drove home, man, and I will it was the scariest fucking thing ever. I'm I had to cover my one eye to see where to so I didn't see double, and I'll never forget that shit. I'm like, I never fucking did that again. But, you know, I'm I'm in an age where, like, that's just kind of Uber didn't exist.

Now I Uber everywhere. Like, if I'm gonna have one beer, I'll Uber.

Bum Wine Bob: right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob Valincius: it was either you took a taxi and it cost 300 or you drove yourself. Like those were your options.

Bum Wine Bob: Right, right. Or or you hope, right. Yeah. Yeah. Or you hope you had that one friend that, that didn't drink and would, would drive you guys

Rob Valincius: I didn't have that friend. I

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, it's tough because it was like it's same for my friends. It was like, okay, who's the one that's driving this time? It's like, uh Nobody wants to raise their hand to be the one that's like Like, okay.

I'll have one drink the next thing. You know, you look over. It's like, hey, weren't you DDing tonight? He's out there doing shots. You're like, oh, well, that's not gonna end well

Rob Valincius: well, the joke for me was I was the best DDD. It was the designated drunk driver.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, I was gonna say that's like in uh, the hangover it's like yeah Phil was always our designated drunk driver

Rob Valincius: I was good, man. I was, I was good for a while. And then of course, you know, I, I unfortunately got, got a DUI at some

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, so then that that that kind of that kicks you in the butt at that

Rob Valincius: I hit a checkpoint. I was fine. It was my birthday. I took, I took two shots and I had a beer and like a five hour stretch. And I blew a 081 and it fucked me up. I didn't have to like Go to jail or any of

Bum Wine Bob: yeah Yeah,

Rob Valincius: I had to get i've never been in trouble in my entire life, you know, I was a good kid So it was uh, yeah, it wasn't fun so like You know, obviously you learn your lesson when you're when you're in your your 20s and

Bum Wine Bob: yeah,

Rob Valincius: shit happens I mean now it's I think it's a lot more rough Like if you get hit with it, even just a regular dui, I think everything's getting even more and more strict Um You know, but, I, I, I paid my dues.

Heh, heh,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, yeah, you paid your dues you learned your lesson and you're like, okay. Well, i'm not i'm not doing that again So, okay if I got to go somewhere and i'm drinking, okay, i'll find a way to You To get there, they don't have to worry about anything.

Rob Valincius: Hey man, if it's, if it's fifty bucks And it's, you know, a round trip's a hundred bucks. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like it's a lot, lot cheaper than fucking being, you

Bum Wine Bob: Oh yeah,

Rob Valincius: a, in a cell and paying two grand. And I mean, it's just, I think until you fucking go through that shit, it's, you know, you, you kind of, you learn it that way.

But, uh, tell me a little bit about your battle of the boobs. I was like going through some of your, your different, um, March madness style battle of the booze events. So,

Bum Wine Bob: of the Boos, man.

Rob Valincius: 24 was old E800,

Bum Wine Bob: That's it, yeah. I was gonna say, yeah. I had the, uh Let's see, I have all this random shit here. You see, I I mean, you can see. I mean, this is just like And this is even from like Two months ago at this point, because, because luckily, this was the plastic 42s, which now the glass 40s are back for, uh, Old English and for Steel Reserve, so.

Rob Valincius: put that shit in plastic?

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, yeah, they had for, for ten years.

Rob Valincius: What?

Bum Wine Bob: uh huh, you, you didn't, you didn't know this? Man.

Rob Valincius: I had no idea.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, so in, in 2014, with a lot of the 40s that were made by, um, uh, Miller Coors, who distributes them, they were putting the 40s in plastic bottles for whatever reason. I guess, it's probably cheap, I mean, it's definitely cheaper to do it in plastic than glass.

So they switched everything from glass 40s to plastic, and Essentially since day one, people were complaining and when, I know all these people that are big malt liquor enthusiasts, I'm in groups on Facebook, I'm on forums, and all we did for the past ten years was bitch and complain saying, hey, plastic sucks, bring back the regular glass forties.

And, nothing. They, they would kind of tease things, because originally they had, uh, they had Mickey's, was in plastic, that came back to glass. And people were like, okay, this is great, we're on our way back, it's coming back. But then they switched it, they went from 40's in plastic, then they, they said, oh, we're doing this 42 ounce gimmick, where we'll give you the extra 2 ounces of malt liquor.

And I was like We don't, we don't care. Two extra ounces. Who, who gives a shit? Just give us

Rob Valincius: get to that two ounces, it tastes like

Bum Wine Bob: Exactly, you're right. You're down here. Right, exactly. You got that. If you're not drinking it that quick, it's that, that warm swill down there at the bottom. So, last year, there had been rumors that Glass Forties were coming back, and sporadically throughout the country, people were seeing them show up.

And we're waiting, we're waiting, and then it was about the middle of April, I think, that people started to say, I went to my local store, the Glass Forties were back. And they started showing up, I was going out there searching, I did some intel, I found people, I was out in Pennsylvania, out in like the, uh, the Hershey area.

Uh, back in the end of April, and on my way back, I stopped at some stores and I found Glass Steel Reserve. And then, about a week or two later, I found the Glass Old English. So, it's officially back. Don't worry, the plastic drama is over. The Glass 40s Have returned so it came after it came after this year's battle during this year's battle the booze that that yes the old English won We still had to drink the plastic, but now the glass is back

Rob Valincius: It's hard to explain to people why the glass is that much better. Like I'm a big, um, I love Captain Morgan. That's like my number one spirit that I love to drink. That's like what I drink here at home. Like I'll drink, you know, Diet Coke and Captain. And, um, apparently they had a glass shortage for like eight months.

So they actually went to plastic handles. For I'm pretty sure it was like eight months and I actually kept I had a glass one here and the wife He's like why do you have this? I'm like in case it never comes back I need to make sure I have this glass one, you know, and It ended it they came back to glass recently I'd say probably over the past like two months It went finally and I don't know like maybe this is just me but like don't you feel like You The alcohol just tastes better in glass.

I feel like there's something about the plastic that does something with the alcohol.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, no, 100%. I'm with you on that. It is. It definitely from the glass, regardless if it's a 40 or even like a Captain Morgan or something like that, pouring it out of the glass bottle. Just it just it just feels better. It just tastes better. There's probably really no difference to it overall. I mean, I guess it's just somehow how it sits in here.

I mean, it's just. It's not the same. It's not the same So as I said, everybody's rejoicing when the glass 40s were back. It was like hallelujah It is perfect. And i'm like I could see both ways of the switch and And I always made a joke about it that i'm like, okay, I mean, I I get it if you if you went into the store You spent your last Like three bucks on a 40 Of Old English, and it's in glass, and you walk out of that store, you bump into something, and it falls, it's gonna shatter all over the place, and you're watching your hopes and dreams just drift away with that broken glass bottle.

You drop this guy, it's just gonna bounce right back up, be a little foamy, but

Rob Valincius: but it's good.

Bum Wine Bob: it's still good. Uh. And then people say, well, it's, it's not a good weapon though. You can't use, uh, you can't break off the, so. Self defense goes to the glass. Durability goes to the plastic. But,

Rob Valincius: Like if you're a bum, like if you're a homeless person, what do you care about more? The durability or the weapon

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, I know you have to shank somebody. I don't, I don't know how, how rough is the neighborhood you're in. Uh, but do

Rob Valincius: What bottle can you pee in the most?

Bum Wine Bob: Oh, this one for sure. I mean, this has the wide mouth. This is a lot

Rob Valincius: Oh, yeah.

Bum Wine Bob: You see that? That's a lot easier compared to, like, I have, uh, Let's see, this is a Miller Lite 40 I had here.

This only has, this is the same

Rob Valincius: you got a little guy there. Yeah.

Bum Wine Bob: yeah, so, I mean, look at this. This is, this is hard hitting stuff here, folks. So, yeah, so this is a lot easier.

Rob Valincius: yeah, if you're homeless, I mean, the plastic is almost better for you in multiple avenues unless you're turning it into a weapon. If you're going to shiv somebody,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, you need the glass. Yeah, this is, this is not gonna do

Rob Valincius: Yeah,

Bum Wine Bob: nothing, yeah.

Rob Valincius: Yeah, it's, it's not gonna protect you, but, um, The Battle of Boos, do you, do you have any, uh, multiple crown winners?

You've been doing it for a while.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, this was the, uh, 8th, 8th season, I think of it, and, uh, and, and this year, Old English was the first ever back to back

Rob Valincius: Oh,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, so the first, uh, back to back champion was the Old English. Uh, Colt 45 was a two time champion as well. Um, Mickey's Malt Liquor also did another, uh, two time. Uh, so It's, uh, it's interesting.

It's fun. We do, we do a 64 beverage tournament. Break it down into different conferences of the, the beers, bum wines, malt liquors, and malt beverages. And I try to take, mostly things that are still available out there. So people can, you know, can try them out and, you know, vote and try to give their own honest opinion.

But for some of, like, the older stuff, the bum wines that you can't find, you're voting off of the nostalgia and the memories you would have had with it there. But every year we try to put it out there. It's fun. It's fun to do it a little March Madness

Rob Valincius: Aw, dude, I love March Madness. Now, do you, um, Is it, is it you and your co host that kinda come up with all the, The beers you're gonna, now, Do you drink all of them on the shows to go do like, what's, what's the process? Like, do you also have, uh, people that call in and vote themselves and stuff like that?

Bum Wine Bob: It has to be something that I have drank before. That's the requirement that I have for it, is that it has to be something that I've drank at some point in my lifetime, that has either been featured on the podcast or the website before, or something that I've drank in the past. And then from out there, we put the links out that anybody can vote.

You can vote. Anybody can share the links and vote at that time and vote for their favorites. To see who will advance forth and usually we'll have a a big reveal show at the at the end for See who the champion is, you know break it down round by round as we go throughout the tournament so Yeah, so it's really as long as it's something that I've drank before I try to keep it honest for me to say Hey, I've drank all these things so I can I can vouch for them.

It's not just people that just pick You know random drinks and throw them up there. So that sounds good. It's like no we've we've drank them before We know that they're worthy Of being it because I I had toyed around this year Of expanding it from 64 to like a 128 like a huge ass tournament and I I had enough drinks to do it, but I was like It's it's a little too much At that point I said, let's just keep it simple 64 is more than enough to go through and vote them out that way.

Rob Valincius: Now have you thought about adding like bottom shelf liquor to your repertoire with the bum wines?

Bum Wine Bob: I've thought of it and it's always been something in my mind that, that we might do down the road. Uh, it's just a lot, not that it's tougher, but there's, there's a lot of them out there and it's like, where do you, okay, do we do, like you said, you were talking about the bottom shelf vodkas before. Bottom shelf rums, uh, bottom shelf whiskey, uh, there's a ton of stuff out there.

I mean, I've, I've only recently just really dove more into the, the whiskey realm and

Rob Valincius: I'm with you there.

Bum Wine Bob: and more of that stuff. Like, um, my, like a buddy Roadhouse sent over to me a couple years ago, uh, you know, a fancy bottle of Noah's Mill,

Rob Valincius: Okay.

Bum Wine Bob: And that's, that's really good whiskey. And then the one I brought up before, this uh, this quarter horse that I have here.

Which is like a, it was like, it was 25 bucks on sale for, for this guy that I had gotten. So, it's still a, it's still a learning curve for, for that stuff. And something I'll probably look more into in trying out new things. There should always be something new. to drink. You gotta switch things up from

Rob Valincius: You wanna try a smooth whiskey dude? And uh, uh, shout out to Bill Harlow. Um, he's, he's uh, someone I interviewed. He's a, he's a barbecue guy. Well, he's a, he likes to cook. Um, and he got me on Angel's Envy. Now, it's not cheap. Um, it's like 60 bucks for the regular, and it's like 100 bucks for the, um, The Rye version.

And I like the Rye a little bit more. Uh, that's what I make my old fashions with. So I, I, Bullet Rye is, is what I have. I always have a, a handle that's like 65 bucks. But it lasts forever. Um, but the Angel's Envy is just like a standard bottle. It's not like a handle. Uh, but it is, it makes really good fucking old fashions.

Like, just really good. Like, and I, I, I go to Vegas is one of my favorite place to go. Uh, and, uh, I was just there, you know, a month, month and a half ago. And we were out on a business dinner with, uh, insurance carrier where we work with and they were buying, uh, old fashions for me with angels envy. And I'm just like, I don't even know how much they are.

They're, they were paying for it, but it was

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, it certainly ain't. I was gonna say, it wouldn't, I was gonna say, and it wouldn't be cheap here, but you just imagine in Vegas with those prices, it's even worse than

Rob Valincius: Forty, fifty bucks, easy.

Bum Wine Bob: I was gonna say, Hey, you're not paying though. So Hey. Ha ha

Rob Valincius: Um, but, but, I mean, if you get a chance and you want to try some really good whiskey, like, I still have that bottle. I've only used it on one occasion so far. I think it was like New Year's. So

Bum Wine Bob: that's a, that's a, it's a special occasion drink. It's not something you're drinking every day.

Rob Valincius: It's not my everyday whiskey.

You know, Bullet makes, Bullet's good. I don't know if you've ever had Bullet,

Bum Wine Bob: I, I've had that before. I've had, a friend of mine had that at one point and I, I tried it at his house and, and that was

Rob Valincius: It's decent. Yeah, it's decent. Bullet Rye makes great old fashions. I have Bullet and Bullet Rye. Those are the, the two that I'll use for my regular everyday drinks. Cause it's not, it's not bottom shelf, it's not top shelf. It's like right net centered, like 2 3. You know, that's where I like to play my life,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, it's right there. It's, it's, it's at eye level. Mm hmm.

Rob Valincius: Yeah, yeah.

Bum Wine Bob: not, you're not looking up for it. You're not down crawling on the bottom looking at the stuff

Rob Valincius: getting dust off of

Bum Wine Bob: Exactly, you're, you're just right there. You're looking at it. You're like, okay, what, what can I get right here? And it's like, usually like between like the 30 to 50 range right there.

And it's like, okay, you can, you can live with that for something you're drinking on a, on a regular basis. I mean, Depends on the type of drinks you're making and because sometimes I'll go down on the bottom shelf and I'll pick up the the the cheap bottle of rum like I like my one of my guilty pleasure rums like I'm I like Captain Morgan too that's kind of like my go to but um the at the Admiral Nelson spice rum I I picked up

Rob Valincius: Captain Jerry, is it Captain Jerry or

Bum Wine Bob: There's uh, there's uh, Sailor Jerry, yeah.

But uh, next to him is the Admiral Nelson. And I picked up a handle of that for, I don't know, it's like 20 bucks or something. And that will, that will last a while, and I think it's good. I mean, but it is that bottom shelf rum. But if you're

Rob Valincius: it's not terrible.

Bum Wine Bob: it's not terrible. I mean, if you're mixing drinks with it, it's good.

Rob Valincius: Gets

Bum Wine Bob: mean, it, it gets the job done.

Rob Valincius: I am a snob

Bum Wine Bob: yeah.

Rob Valincius: though. Uh, there's certain rums, like, I I hate Bacardi. Like, I just can't, like,

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I've never been a big Bacardi fan. Uh, I think I have, I have a bottle here of like Bacardi, uh, white rum. That I think was opened once, years ago. And it's just sitting over here, and I'm like, Anybody ever drink this thing?

I'm like,

Rob Valincius: If someone, if I say,

Bum Wine Bob: I'm just kidding.

Rob Valincius: and someone gives me a Bacardi and Coke, and I taste it, and they go, what the fuck is this? And they're like, oh, we don't have Captain, like, then, then spill this out. I don't

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, then I want something else then. I'll have a

Rob Valincius: you didn't

Bum Wine Bob: type of

Rob Valincius: to me, obviously.

Bum Wine Bob: Especially if you want a Captain and Coke. You want Captain. Oh, we don't have Captain. Okay, well then I'll get something else to drink.

Rob Valincius: I, I specify my shit. Because I've, I've made that mistake.

Bum Wine Bob: Right, and then I'll do that to you for something if it's like, okay, you know, Jack and Coke, Captain and Coke.

It's like, okay, you're saying what you want, you're not just saying, give me a rum and coke. Then you're, you're, they're just gonna give you whatever bottom shelf

Rob Valincius: You're leaving yourself open for interpretation.

Bum Wine Bob: that's just like, okay, just give them the cheapest, okay, what's the house? You know, if you're out somewhere, or you're at somebody's house at a party, and you're like, okay, well.

What they have there, okay, what are we, what are we drinking here? Alright, give me, give me one of those. I'll take

Rob Valincius: Yeah, the house party might be a little different. Um.

Bum Wine Bob: can mix your own.

Rob Valincius: Now, I had to, let's end with this. Cause I, obviously, you're sponsored by 4LOCO. So, I had a two parter here. What's your favorite 4LOCO flavor? Just for starters. And, are you upset that they kinda, kinda went in with the pressure and pulled their original caffeine That they originally had in their drinks.

Cause I did have them back then and they were fucking amazing. They were great. Cause you're just, you're drinking that shit at 10 PM. You're like, woo.

Bum Wine Bob: Right, you're amped up, you're ready to go.

Rob Valincius: Ah, big time. They were fucking delicious.

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah, see, I kind of kick myself because at the time of the original Four Locos, I was not into it as much as I am now. So, I probably only had original four locos. a couple of times. Uh, when I was in

Rob Valincius: boat here. Same

Bum Wine Bob: I was in college, uh, it did have, did you have Sparks at all?

Rob Valincius: Mm

Bum Wine Bob: Uh, me and my roommates in college, uh, we would get Sparks and they were big into those, so we'd drink Sparks.

Uh, more, it would be like Sparks and like a Steel Reserve would be like the, The go to 7 Eleven and, and pick this up or I'd pick up some Bud Ice. And we'd sit there and eat nachos and watch some random ass movie just like, wasted. Uh, but, but, so, I mean, I, I get it. I mean, people always complain. People always bitchin complain and say, I'm all with vape.

And I was at, when I was at this Memorial Day party this past weekend, somebody's like, I was wearing my Four Loko, my regular Four Loko hat and shirt, and they're like, like, Four Lokos are still around? I'm like, yes, they're still around. It's not like they, they got rid of them. I said, yes, they changed the formula, but I get it.

I mean, you don't really need to mix the caffeine and the alcohol together. Uh, I mean, I said, if you still want to do that, just throw like a five hour energy. Into your 4Loko, do that. Or you can be a Red Bull and Vodka type person, do that. Uh, I don't mind. I can live without the combination of the two.

Especially now as we get older, it's like, I don't need to be mixing this together. I'll just take my alcohol and go from there.

Rob Valincius: I am a recovering energy drink drinker. I actually, I drank energy drinks every day for 18 years. And then, uh, decided I needed to stop because I'm getting older. So, I stopped drinking energy drinks. Cold turkey.

Bum Wine Bob: Okay. Good for you.

Rob Valincius: I haven't had one. I have some in my fridge. I say hi to them every day.

Bum Wine Bob: But you haven't done it. You haven't cracked it

Rob Valincius: I, I haven't had one or had any mixed drink, like a Red Bull and vodka or anything in over two years.

Bum Wine Bob: Wow, nice. You know, I've never been an energy drink person in general. Uh, I mean, rarely, I mean rarely. I mean, I, I don't, I'll have a, a coffee in the morning, and I'm like, I'm like, coffee, water, beer. That's like the, the trifecta of the day. It's like, start with your coffee, Drink water, try to get yourself ready, and then at night, you can have your beer, and go for it.

I try not to drink, I don't drink that much soda, or stuff, I mean, every once in a while. If I'm mixing a drink, like, earlier, I'll, I'll do it, but, unless I'm

Rob Valincius: I drink a, like a 20 ounce Diet Coke in the morning. That's like the caffeine of my day. That's what I do for caffeine now. I don't drink coffee. I, I gave up coffee. I went from energy drinks to coffee. The wifey still drinks coffee. I make her coffee every day. Um, and then I weaned myself off of coffee and now I drink like one 20 ounce Diet Coke.

And so this, you know, 40 or 50 milligrams, I was drinking 700 milligrams a day of like

Bum Wine Bob: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Rob Valincius: dialed myself back and then I'll drink like a hundred ounces. 100 milliliters of water when I'm at work and then uh, and then booze for dinner. It's my, my

Bum Wine Bob: got it. Exactly. It's the portion control of your day when it comes to your drinks of, okay, if I drink all this throughout the day, now at night, I can enjoy myself with this.

Rob Valincius: Exactly, exactly. Well look man, it was uh, it was fun having you on.

Bum Wine Bob: Definitely. Definitely. I appreciate it.

Rob Valincius: chatting drinks with you. Um, tell everybody where they can find your content, where they can find all your shit, and uh, if you got anything new uh, coming out in the near future.

Bum Wine Bob: you can, you can keep up with me at bumwinebob. com is the website where you can find everything related to the blog, the podcast. All the booze we've ever reviewed is out there. And, uh, we're pushing the, the YouTube channel these days at youtube.com/bum wide bob, or search bum wide. Bob, uh, we're we recently just over the last six months, ventured into the, the video podcast?

world like like you see here or if you're watching or listening and so we're trying to push the the content on the youtubes of the world to to get that more exposure but you can check out bumwith bobcat on all your favorite podcast apps and we did the the jungle juice combo we're doing some more camo malt liquor

Rob Valincius: That one was funny. You guys had me laughing with that.

Bum Wine Bob: and yeah we got part two of the camo coming up maybe boom After this one comes out depending on when this one's dropping We'll we'll see it says we got to subscribe or keep up with the podcast You never know what will come up and and what we'll drink next So that's the the adventure we go out there we go out searching for the stuff.

So you never know what you'll find Out there. So so but hey just rob. Thank you, man. It was great to finally sit down here Have some drinks with you and just shoot the shit. I appreciate it

Rob Valincius: Yeah, man, dude, thank you so much for coming on. Um, My podcast you can find, it's Drink O'Clock Pod on all socials. Uh, Drink O'Clock, uh, everywhere you listen to podcasts. And, uh, you know this episode will be up in a week or two. Whenever, whenever the fuck I get around to editing, um,

Bum Wine Bob: I get it now. I'm the same way. That's like I got I should really be doing this today. Uh, you know, I'll do it tomorrow Shit. Yeah the next day that sounds that sounds like once you started recording video stuff It was like, you know, the video is already out there I can cut down on editing, and I had somebody, uh, reach out, I'll post like the podcast on Reddit, in like the podcast forums, and say hey, you know, they do like new episode threads and everything, and I had somebody, you know, reply, and I'm like, you know, you like to hear feedback, whether it's good or bad, from people, and she's like, she's like, hey, I'm a, you know, I'm a female beer drinker, and that's like, whoa, I mean, that's like, You don't find that many when it comes to what we're covering

Rob Valincius: Game Stopper,

Bum Wine Bob: Here and she's like, she's like, oh, well, you know, you should really, you know, edit the podcast You had some like dead air and stuff like that when when you're drinking and you're thinking of stuff, you know It's silence and nobody wants dead air And i'm like i'm like I used to be very, you know particular in editing and I like cut out every little Like fragment of you know sound and all that now.

It's just like You You're sitting here for hours editing, so, so hey, you do what you gotta do, right?

Rob Valincius: I feel you there, bro. I feel you there, bro. Well, look man, you have a great night, dude. And, uh, thank you for hanging out. I

Bum Wine Bob: Yes, thank you, appreciate it, man. Cheers.

Rob Valincius: Cheers, brother.

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